6 sats to one to 5 receivers ?????

[BLAZE1]

I looking to redo my sat system and Trying to get 6-8 sats to 5 recevers. I have been looking at diagrams and want to make sure before I Purchase some switches. Most big switches I have seen are for direct tv. do they work for fta? can you use these with viewsat and soniview boxes? i found a perfect vision 5x8 and am not sure if this will work for me or not. would like a 6x8 or 8x8 but dont know where to start as to what will work. Would like to get 119,110,91,129,61.5 may be 82 and have room for additional sats Ku to play with as needed to each receiver. I have viewsat pro's and sonicview 8000's. have lots of single lnbs with duel out puts and and dishpro quads. have many dish 500's and single dtv 18 inch dishes and lots of room to aim them. thank for the help in adavnce.

[jpeterson]

I have never thought about a setup for more than 4 receivers, but what I am going to suggest may be worth a try as I know it will work for 4 receivers.

You will need two DP44 switches and 4 Ecoda 22Khz switches. Each 22Khz switch will have two inputs (22Khz ON and 22Khz OFF) and one output. 8 LNBs will go two each into each of the 22Khz switches. Each of the outputs of the 22Khz switch (four outputs) will not go into the 4 inputs of the first DP44. The bottom outputs of the first DP44 go to 4 receivers. The right 4 outputs of the first DP44 will now go into the 4 inputs of the second DP44. The bottom outputs of the second DP44 will now go to 4 additional receivers. This will give you a total of 8 LNBs feeding 8 receivers. If you cascade another DP44, you can feed another 4 receivers (I think).

I have added a pitcure to help you. Since I have not tried this two DP44 setup with 8 LNBs, I cannot guarentee that it will work, but technically this looks like it should work. If you do try it, let us know how it turned out.

Since you have that many receivers connected, the power requirement for the DP44 should be met, not sure. You may need a power inserter to power each of the DP44 switches, in that case you can only feed 6 receivers.

Good luck.

[bill of oz]

checkout EMP switches, i beleive they make an 8x8 and a 13x5, it will be a bit more expensive but its alot neater and easier having only one switch instead of 10-20 of them with a mess of wires.....

[creativegenius]

Here is a 4 by 8 (four ins to eight receivers)

http://www.allstarwholesales.com/details.php?id=154

But you get the idea.

Creative Genius

[BLAZE1]

the 8x8 and 13x 5 do they work with sonicview boxes and viewsat boxes. i think i inly have ports 1-4 how would i get the other ports to come up? and with these work with my single lnbs? quad dish pros and or both kinds? thanks

[s2byus]

When designing the appropriate solution, take these into consideration:
1. Do not use DTV LNBs or switches for FTA.
2. Do not mix different LNB technologies with the same switch:
2.1 Dishpro LNBs work with dp34 (3 satellite locations) or dpp44 (4 satellite locations) multiswitches and can feed up to 4 receivers.
2.2 Standard Legacy LNBs work with conventional Zinwell or EMP Centauri multiswitches, but any single LNB should have dual output and uses 2 switch inputs - one for each polarization (13 V and 18V), so a 6x4 switch would give only 3 satellite locations to up to 4 receivers.
3. DP34 or DPP44 switches can be cascaded and double the number of receivers, but still 3 or 4 satellite locations.
4. The number of satellites can be increased by using for each receiver a 22khz ECODA switch having one input connected to a switch that provides 3 or 4 satellie locations and the other input to another switch of the same or different technology. This way, one of 3-4 Ports/satellites can be selected from one switch for receiver settings with 22khz OFF and other one of 3-4 Ports/satellites from the other switch for receiver settings with 22khz ON.

[bill of oz]

Originally Posted by BLAZE1

the 8x8 and 13x 5 do they work with sonicview boxes and viewsat boxes. i think i inly have ports 1-4 how would i get the other ports to come up? and with these work with my single lnbs? quad dish pros and or both kinds? thanks

you can use the motor options menu to select more than 4 ports on an EMP switch.....there is a sticky on this site about it somewhere "setting up an 8x1 EMP switch" or something like that.....same principles would apply to larger switches.....

here is a 13x8 switch as an example......

13x8 EMP-CENTAURI Switch Powered Multiswitch 6 LNB 8Rec on eBay.ca (item 400053142630 end time 29-Jun-09 20:58:02 EDT)

[BLAZE1]

you guys are great! thanks for all this info. what about this set up dish pro with 119/110 to sw-21 to side A then 129 to other side of sw-21 to a 22khz switch on the on side then 91/82 to sw-21 and 65.1 to the 22khz to the off side of the 22khz then to receiver? will it work? that would be 6 sat what about a 4x1 to one side of a 22khz and another 4x1 to the other side of a 22khz and then to a receiver.??? would this work??? I know this would be for one receiver but would make me happy today. hahaha. now to decide between the dp 44 and that big 13x8 which i may need two of????? for more sats in the future???? the dp 44's will get me 8sats to 8 receivers which may be cost effective but what if i want more sats oneday???? may be the oppertunity for 12 sats would be better? maybe a motor would be better hahahaha! i want easy access to all sats hmmmmmmm. i hope the is a positive post! thanks again

[BLAZE1]

which set up give th best picture?

[jpeterson]

Originally Posted by BLAZE1

you guys are great! thanks for all this info. what about this set up dish pro with 119/110 to sw-21 to side A then 129 to other side of sw-21 to a 22khz switch on the on side then 91/82 to sw-21 and 65.1 to the 22khz to the off side of the 22khz then to receiver? will it work? that would be 6 sat what about a 4x1 to one side of a 22khz and another 4x1 to the other side of a 22khz and then to a receiver.??? would this work??? I know this would be for one receiver but would make me happy today. hahaha. now to decide between the dp 44 and that big 13x8 which i may need two of????? for more sats in the future???? the dp 44's will get me 8sats to 8 receivers which may be cost effective but what if i want more sats oneday???? may be the oppertunity for 12 sats would be better? maybe a motor would be better hahahaha! i want easy access to all sats hmmmmmmm. i hope the is a positive post! thanks again

Blaze,

It is usually recommended that the 22Khz switch should be the closest to the LNB. So I am not sure if the the SW21 between the LNB and the 22Khz would work. The 22Khz switch works pretty much like a SW21 switch. A better approach would be to use several 22Kz switches and a disecq switch.

The only disadvantage with a motor is the channel change time. If you like to surf the channels a lot, then using switches is better than the motor.

[BLAZE1]

Jp, so the 22khz should to the disecq like port 1 on , then port 1 off, the port 2 on, then port 2 off and so forth? so for sure it will work right after sat then to the diseqc? how about like 2 4x1 to a 22khs???? I have the parts for this one and I can have my one 8000 with this set up tonight. if it wont work I will have the parts for the big set by next week! you guys have been great! thanks again for the help! I think in the end I going with the dp 44's because i can have 8 sats and for $$$ reasons and it looks super simple. the emp switches look great but 350 plus shipping doesnt seem feasable right now and in the end i will want more than 6 sats. i have been doing this for a few years now only with the max of 4 sats and simple set ups. thanks for broadining my horizons, you guys kick ***!

[jpeterson]

2 4X1 disecqs and 1 22Khz switch will not work. Remember the 22Khz switch must the closest switch to the LNB. No harm in trying though, as the switch technology may have changed and you may be able to get it to work. Trying is the game with FTA. Unless we try different things, we wont learn and these lessons can help many others.

[BLAZE1]

thanks again