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mikeon11 · 3 Weeks Ago

hi all,

i am just in here, and will like some help understanding how dream box work.

i have samsung SPVR right now {live in Holland} i visited satellite vendor who tried to sell DREAMBOX {model unknown} to me. he also showed me his channel setting and there were like every channels on the satellite, paid or fta. according him i would get all of that with this dream box if i pay him additional 150 euros a year, with guarantee.

the question is, is it possible to get all that channels, and how?. if i buy my own dreambox can i get it to work that way?. he also mentioned that i should have internet connections otherwise it would not . what is the connect?

please do kindly explain this possibilities to me if you can. i know about computer and i know about internet, but satellite i am still new.

thanks in advance

**Victor Hugo** · 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by mikeon11

hi all,

i am just in here, and will like some help understanding how dream box work.

i have samsung SPVR right now {live in Holland} i visited satellite vendor who tried to sell DREAMBOX {model unknown} to me. he also showed me his channel setting and there were like every channels on the satellite, paid or fta. according him i would get all of that with this dream box if i pay him additional 150 euros a year, with guarantee.

the question is, is it possible to get all that channels, and how?. if i buy my own dreambox can i get it to work that way?. he also mentioned that i should have internet connections otherwise it would not . what is the connect?

please do kindly explain this possibilities to me if you can. i know about computer and i know about internet, but satellite i am still new.

thanks in advance

To ABA family, enjoy your stay.

rudnisty · 3 Weeks Ago

Fta satellite receivers are like computers designed to do just one kind of work. They have to be programmed to transform electromagnetic waves to video and audio seen and heard on Your TV. If we know how we can change the software on it to make it able to do the same with scrambled channels . This is what FTA people are doing for testing, educational , fun etc... purpose. Acording to present knolewedge all of the software (if exists) is available on line for free. Selling it for piracy purpose is rather very illegal. So I would be sceptical to buy it. Dig the web . If that guy have it , it get it free.

mikeon11 · 3 Weeks Ago

thanks guys for your quick reply. you see, according him i have to buy a {his} dreambox and he would make sure i receive all scrambled channels across the ''globe''. other interesting thing he said was that i have to have internet connection to make sure i continuously receive these channels for one year at the cost 150 euro. in his own words, '' i will send the channels to you every months otherwise you will not get those scrambled channels'' so this words kinda get me thinking, decode this channels and send them to my dreambox? but how?.

can i buy a dreambox and do whatever i like with it?. guys i am little bored with computer hardwares/softwares right now and need something like this to impress my buddies again

rudnisty · 3 Weeks Ago

I think the best way to get knowledge is browsing DreamBox sections on fta forums . There are many of them on the web. Each receiver have a specific problems to resolve so only people who already have them are the best source of experience.

**marty napier** · 3 Weeks Ago

welcome to aba!

**slowboy** · 3 Weeks Ago

welcome TOO ABADSS HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SITE

grandpaclint · 3 Weeks Ago

seems to me all he is doing is selling you a subscription to a network like dish or direct tv
and making you think it is unscrambled fta

IMHO

**buddyjh** · 3 Weeks Ago

Welcome aboard

**creativegenius** · 3 Weeks Ago

The Dreamboxes (especially the 500's) are a popular receicer in Europe, they use a Linux operating system and are most often used in Card Sharing Networks. You can buy the Dreambox unit from any vendor, and then you'll have to find a private network to connect with (that's what the 150Eur is for).

You can learn more about this kind of set up here ... see next post.

Creative Genius

**creativegenius** · 3 Weeks Ago

Why IKS isn't really a true Card Share
In a nutshell:

"Why IKS isn't really a true Card Share"

c/p

An IKS based system uses the internet to share "keys", but these are not the keys that "autoroll", they are called Control Word "keys" or CWs. Each channel has its own CW that is valid for approx. 5 minutes, this CW is an 8 byte number, this 8 byte number is used to unscramble the digital Video/audio packets for the 1 channel, so every time you change channels you need the Decrypted CW for that channel, and this is what I K S does via an internet connection.

The way a standalone BIN works is that when you select a channel to view, the BIN sends the Encrypted CW packet, found in "the stream" on that channel, to the "softcam" in the BIN , the softcam Decrypts the CW packet and uses the Decrypted CW to unscramble the Video/audio for that channel.

Softcam = a software duplicate of a smartcard, an N2 duplicate card at this time, because no one has been able to "open" an N3 card to get the information inside to make a software duplicate of it to use in a BIN file. This is why there is no "N3 fix" files.

I K S doesn't give users direct card access, they are connecting to a server that has all the channels listed by ID, with each channel ID is the latest decrypted CW for that channel, so the card is not being shared directly, the Decrypted CWs are being shared.

The receiver still sends the Encrypted CW packet via the internet to the server, the server uses that packet to ID the channel, and sends back the Decrypted CW for that channel, the card is not involved in any of this.

If the Encrypted packet has not been "seen" by the server before, so its a new CW, then the server will send that Encrypted packet to another location, the card server, where it will be Decrypted by the Subbed N3 card then sent back to the User server to be saved and sent out to any user watching that channel.

I K S setups have no limit on users, just the server limits, but more servers can be added to increase port capacity as required. I K S is newer means of approaching the old private network or 'True Card Share' set ups of days gone by.

<end c/p>

And that is how it works ... basically.

**painterguy14** · 3 Weeks Ago

Hello & Welcome to Aba!!!

mikeon11 · 3 Weeks Ago

thanks everybody for being friendly and helpful. especially, creativegenius, i must say i am wiser now than before i joined the forum.

to start, i have to buy my own dreambox {500 serie} and probably search through the net for available network around me here , Holland. i am glad i am here and hopefully i will very quick.

thanks once again