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Old June 23rd, 2009   #1 (permalink)
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I'm in Motor Hell!!!

okay, here's what's going on :
been running stationary dishes a long time
decided to get a motor (sg2100) big dish (90cm) and awesome LNB (invacom QPH-031) did my home work, thought I would attack with some knowledge and am failing miserably. My mounting pole is as true as it gets... flat level, circ level and drop level all say perfectly straight set incline of dish, elevation of motor (allowed for declination) shot real south( not magnetic) and can't get anything... running port 3 circular port 4 linear, switch is after motor and is a brand new real chieta 4X1, could it be I left port 1 and 2 open?
I did not reset the motor after installation? I'm at a loss. In the morning, I'm going to reset motor, loosen some bolts and move motor (using USUALS) to a sat I know I can get a strong signal from. either 110, 119 or 91. in theory, if I make adjustments with motor in position and nail it, would that get me in the ARC? oh sorry , this is running from a SV 8000 hd with ihub and a-1 v2 board.
any help will be greatly appreciated... Suggestions on settings for this LNB, straight through motor elevation, dish elevation etc.
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

try this it is the best motor set guide that i have found

http://www.abadss.com/forum/29-fta-a...tup-guide.html
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

using ports 3 and 4 on the switch should be fine, but if your having trouble i would eliminate all switches......

first of all are you sure the motor is working? is it moving when you drive it to a satellite using USALS???.....

if so then do a reset on the motor and make sure the lights flash properly and go back on after the reset.....

do a factory default on your receiver.....

set the motors latitude scale to YOUR LATITUDE......this adjustment should NEVER be changed......

disconnect the output from the motor.....only connect the cable from the receiver to the motor.....

pick your closest circular satellite to you and go into the dish settings for it.....enter in all the proper info.....LNB standard/single....LNB freq 11250.....diseqc NONE cause we are going to eliminate that for now.....

now go into the motor options and select USUALS.....enter in your lat and long.....go to dispointer.com to get your exact Lat and long.....make sure your lat is set to N and not S.....and long is set to W and not E.....

now tell the motor to drive to that satellite.....

go outside and check the motor shaft position and see that it has moved slightly from its 0 position.....unless your circular satellite you are using is directly south then it will still be on 0......

now turn off your receiver with the back switch.....disconnect the cable going to the motor and plug that same cable into the LNB port "C".....

turn your receiver back on and go into the dish settings for the same satellite you selected before.....verify all settings are the same......

now its time to go outside and aim.....when making your horizontal adjustments you move the entire motor/dish assembly on the pole.....when adjusting vertically you move the dish only, NOT the motor.....

peak in the signal for the selected satellite and you should be set.....after everything is tightened down you can verify you are on the arc by testing out a satellite at each end of the arc.....61.5W is a good one for the east and 129W is a good one for the west(depending on your location).....if you get good Q on all of these you are set......

now you can turn your receiver off and install your switch and wiring properly.....
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

Great info Bill.
Short of you going to his house, that should do it. Good enough for a sticky I think.
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

bill knows his stuff!!! used his posts to set mine up.
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

thanks for the input guys, I'm battling with it now... I'll be sure to let you know how it turns out - thanks Mook
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

okay...fixed the elevation issue, now when I move motor to hit 110 I am actually hitting 119 with 75 signal and 100 quality...my guess is I need to rotate motor 9' to the east. is that correct?
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

or should I try movieg motor to 119 and then adjusting it?
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

ok when you got you true south from dishpointer.com then use a compass and stand under the arm and get the closest to true south . then move it to 110 sat with the motor once(make sure you have the proper long and lat for your location entered before moving) then once you move it on the sg 2100 you will see it is sitting on 110 location on the motor .. if it is then loosen the brackets on the mast to just move it slowly move it back to 110 echostar 8 once you are there and get a bit of quality (make sure not to move the motor anymore) get the best quality you can 100% if you can and once you are there tighen the clamps a bit and then elevation .. now go back in and then do what bill said and set up the 148 and try and move it there if it goes there and gives you a great signal qnd quality try 61.5 if you get both good then you are on the arc and you can tighen everything down (becareful not to crush the mast )
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

okay...thanks to all your help, I am almost there, gonna have to tweak it Sunday when work is done. I am hitting everything from 61.5 to 119, no 129 or 148...signal rises, but no quality...I am pretty sure my true south is off a little, but I know I will get it, should not take me long. however, new issue, on my sg2100, when removing rg6 to put directly into/out of LNB to reciever for fine tuning, I noticed the female rg6 (out to reciever) is loose. looking for pics online, looks like they are soldered directly to main board...this sucks,. anyway to open motor case and re-solder the rg6 input? warranty is not really a concern. if I can fix it I would gladly forfeit the warranty. and if I could fix. could I do it on the pole, 'cause I just got her pretty much sorted out. thanks again
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Re: I'm in Motor Hell!!!

Best way to find True South: Look up the time that the Sun rises and when it Sets at your location.

Divide that time in half.

At that exact time, the Sun will be at True South.

Set motor to the "0" Reference position.

Manually point your dish & motor assembly in the direction of the Sun at that time, then tighten down the bolts.

Tweak dish elevation as required.

That's it. You're done.
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