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Old July 13th, 2009   #1 (permalink)
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Dish pro lnb and switches help

Hi everyone,

I'm installing a Dish500, Dish-Pro Digital LNBF, and need some guidance. I'm trying to figure what switches I need. I have two receivers now but will be adding a dvr in a few weeks for a total of 3 receivers.

My LNB has a total of two output one for each sat 110 and 119. I take it I need a switch to feed those two into on line. Was told I need a sw21 for the lnb?

After that I need to bring the line to my house where my old cable setup is where it splits on my lines to the 3 rooms. I take It I cant use the old cable company splitter? Or do I need another splitter at that point to split the lnb line to the three rooms?

I just want to go ahead and order what I need so I can get going.

Thanks for all your help,
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

you can pick up a dp34 pretty cheap. can supply up to 4 stb's w/ up to 3 sat locations
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

If your LNB is a Dish Pro Dual then there are two out puts and each output will carry both 119 and 110. So that means you can take two lines to your house and feed Two receivers. But if you need to feed three receivers, then as suggested by dirtywill2001, you can get DP34 switch and feed both feeds to the input side and then out to 4 receivers.
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

Yeah I have one output for the 110 and one output for the 119 on the lnb. They are not combined. That's why I was thinking I needed the sw21 then feed that one line to the house then use another switch there. I just did not want to run several lines from the dish to the house.
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

Some of this data was copy n pasted from another site, another post.. thx for reading it.


Splitters don’t work for one simple reason, Sat reception on LNB's are divided into two options triggered by the receiver.
Circular & Linear LNB's: What's the difference?

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Put your polarizing sunglasses on.

What's the difference?
Answer: About -3dB or half the signal level.

Now take your sunglasses off. Notice how bright it is in here? The difference in brightness is an example of using the wrong LNB type.

Circular and Linear polarization refer to the characteristics of the radio wave that is transmitted by the satellite towards your dish/LNB. Below are links to visual comparisons of Circular (Left or Right-hand) and Linear (Vertical or Horizontal) polarization.
http://www.barco.com/projection_sys...r&circulair.jpg
http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/sam/icets/VHB6-6.gif

Circular polarization refers to a wave of radio signal rotating in a spiral. This spiral can be rotating in either the clockwise ("R"ight-hand) or counterclockwise ("L"eft-hand) direction. Think of an approaching airplane as the plane's propeller is moving towards you.

The following example satellites (visible in N.America) are transmitting with a circular polarized signal:

EchoStar 3 @61.5°W http://www.lyngsat. com/echo3.html
Nimiq 2 @82.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/nimiq2.html
Nimiq 1/3 @91.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/nimiq1.html
EchoStar 6/8 @110.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/110west.html
EchoStar 7 @119.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/echo7.html
EchoStar 1/2 @148.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/148west.html

How do I know they are circularly polarized?
If you click on any one of the links for the satellites above you will notice that under the first column labeled as "Freq. TP" you will find one of the following single letter designations:

"R" = right-hand (=circular polarization)
"L" = left-hand (=circular polarization)

So what about linear polarization?
Linear polarization refers to a wave of radio signal rotating in a single plane. Think of an approaching helicopter as the helicopter's main rotor is moving towards you. It is rotating in a single, horizontal plane. The same approaching helicopter's smaller rear rotor is rotating in a single, vertical plane. In our satellite case it can be either in the "H"orizontal or "V"ertical plane.

The following example satellites (visable in N.America) are transmitting with a linear polarized signal:

SBS 6 @74.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/sbs6.html
AMC 5 @79.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/amc5.html
AMC 9 @85.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/amc9.html
IA 6 @93.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/ia6.html
IA 5 @97.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/ia5.html
AMC 1 @103.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/amc1.html
AMC 2 at 105.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/amc2.html
EchoStar 9 @121.0°W http://www.lyngsat. com/echo9ia13.html

Again, under the first column labeled as "Freq. Tp" you will find one of the following single letter designations:

"V" = vertical (=linear polarization)
"H" = horizontal (=linear polarization)

Now that you understand the difference between the two satellite polarization types please put your polarizing sunglasses back on.

Hmmm, a little harder to read this right? Well, that's what happens to your receiver when you try to use a linear polarized LNB to receive a circular polarized satellite signal and vice a-versa. About a 50% loss of signal!

Armed with the invaluable information you now possess, by using this link http://www.lyngsat. com/america.html you can determine for yourself what type of LNB you will need for each satellite.

If you need a circular polarized LNB look for words describing it as "DSS" or "DBS" or "circular" or a combination of these terms.

If you need a linear polarized LNB look for words describing it as "FSS" or "FTA" or "linear" or a combination of these terms (FYI: All Universal LNB's are linear LNB's).
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

Vg how would you hook that setup to the sv8000 alone, sorry not trying to steal post
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

Your simplest and most cost effective way is to use a DP34 as previously stated. Put 119 on port1 and 110 on port2. This will simplify things if you ever have issues as it follows the way that most people hook things up.
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

Thanks I'm going shopping for a dp34. I guess I will have two lines coming from the lnb, and run those two lines to the dp34. I will mount the dp34 at the house where my lines feed out to the rooms.

Thanks for the all your help
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

You was right I got one from ebay 17.99 shipped from a reliable seller
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Re: Dish pro lnb and switches help

Sync45 - Please start a new thread in the SV8000 help area and please give details of your LNB that you are using and then someone can give you the necessary help.

What you have done is called Highjacking another's thread.
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