22khz and internal switching w/ dp lnb's

[dirtywill2001]

i have a quick question...i have a friend with a dish 500 w/ dp twin for bev (91+82) and a d1000.2 for charlie.
i know each of these lnb's have internal switching. currently each dish is run separately into each room of the house (1 line for bev and 1 for charlie).
is it possible to connect a 22khz switch right b-4 the stb to combine bev and charlie together on the same box w/o deactivating the internal switches inside the lnb...i know hooking it up to a diseqe switch will deactivate it but not sure about the 22khz switch.
hd is in the future for him so he will want to receive 82 as well which is why i dont want to hook 91 up to the in port of the 1000.2
thanks in advance.

[jc7257]

Look at these drawings...
http://www.abadss.com/forum/29-fta-a..._drawings.html

[fossil112]

i tried this using two dp twin setups (dn 500). one for 110,119 and the other for 91,82. i couldn't get it to work for the life of me. channels would freeze intermittantly...
if this works, please post back with results and your settings

[bill of oz]

yes you can do that.....

but you need to make sure you use a 22khz switch that will let diseqc commands pass through it.....not all of them will.....one that i know will work for sure is "ecoda".....and i also believe "EMP" will work too....

[eserwin]

I had almost same problem, freezing and lost of power but I change the dp twin for 2 singles DP pro on my 82,91 sat and that was the solution. I don't know exactly why but for some reason the dp twin is probably design only for pointing just the 110, 119... Correct me if I'm wrong but after a lot of readings and almost 2 months of research, that works for me.

[fossil112]

after reading Oz's post, some 22khz switches don't allow the diseqc commands to pass through, which is probably what was happening in my situation.
Follow Bill's post and i bet you'll be well on your way.

edit

I had almost same problem, freezing and lost of power but I change the dp twin for 2 singles DP pro on my 82,91 sat and that was the solution. I don't know exactly why but for some reason the dp twin is probably design only for pointing just the 110, 119... Correct me if I'm wrong but after a lot of readings and almost 2 months of research, that works for me.

the reason yours worked after changing to two singles is because of the lack of switching. dp500's have an internal diseqc switch, where as the singles do not.
sounds like encoda switches are the way to go.

[kdt550]

Originally Posted by fossil112

i tried this using two dp twin setups (dn 500). one for 110,119 and the other for 91,82. i couldn't get it to work for the life of me. channels would freeze intermittantly...
if this works, please post back with results and your settings

the setup i am using now is simular to this,except i have dp quad aimed at 110/119, i could not get the sw21 switch to operate right,got a Ecoda switch,it still would not switch right,found out it was power issue,the solaris would not switch by it self.connected a coolsat 6k to one of the quad outputs and it works great.

[kdt550]

119.0W echostar 7
Lnb Type quad dplnfb
LO freg 11250
22khg off
diseqc 1.0 port 1
disqc 1.1 disable
multi-dish switch sw21 dish 1
lock tp
lock tp
motor setting off
lnb power on

satellite 110.0W echostar 8/10
Lnb Type quad dplnfb
LO freg 11250
22khg off
diseqc 1.0 port 2
disqc 1.1 disable
multi-dish switch sw21 dish 1
lock tp
lock tp
motor setting off
lnb power on

satellite 91.0W nimiq1 ku
Lnb Type twin dplnfb
LO freg 11250
22khg on
diseqc 1.0 port 1
disqc 1.1 disable
multi-dish switch sw21 dish 2
lock tp
lock tp
motor setting off
lnb power on

this is my setup,it works perfect,i was having the same problem you are.

[jpeterson]

Definitely Ecoda switches - have been found to work well and be reliable.

[dirtywill2001]

Originally Posted by bill of oz

yes you can do that.....

but you need to make sure you use a 22khz switch that will let diseqc commands pass through it.....not all of them will.....one that i know will work for sure is "ecoda".....and i also believe "EMP" will work too....

thanks bill...ecoda is the brand i currently use to tie 2-dp34 together, they work great so i guess thats what i will suggest to my friend.
thanks again to all who replied

[dirtywill2001]

Originally Posted by fossil112

if this works, please post back with results and your settings

just got back from my friends house...hooked up the ecoda to the back of the stb and worked flawlessly...as for settings i just switched the 22khz setting from off to on for the sats hooked up to the on side

[bill of oz]

Originally Posted by eserwin

I had almost same problem, freezing and lost of power but I change the dp twin for 2 singles DP pro on my 82,91 sat and that was the solution. I don't know exactly why but for some reason the dp twin is probably design only for pointing just the 110, 119... Correct me if I'm wrong but after a lot of readings and almost 2 months of research, that works for me.

the DP twin and the triple on the dish 1000's are MAJOR POWER HOGS!!

alot of FTA receivers have trouble supplying enough power for these LNBs especially if you have more than one of these lnbs connected.....that was most likely your problem.....

some people hookup a second receiver to the system just to supply more power even though they never use the second receiver just leave it on all the time.....