Motorized decisions

[kndmthrfxer]

Hello

I'm new to FTA and now in the market for larger Ku setup(s) with motorized dish and linear/circular possibly multi output lnbs. This is in an effort to capture more of the FTA channels spread over several birds. I'll plan on keeping the old stationary standby 500 setup and just adding some more rungs upstream of my switch.

My question is that of ease of everyday use verses combining functionality. Is it better to dedicate separate dishes to linear and circular. Or would it be ok to use the multi output linear/circular lnb. My thought is that surfing channels while waiting for the dish to get situated might be an ordeal.

On this note, I've read of some people dedicating recievers to certain orbital locations, is this advantageous and which value (read cheap) recievers work best for this?

Also, do the motors used on these setups require dedicated diseqc ports in the setup? Or can I use the 22khz?

Thanks

kmf

[creativegenius]

Most motorized systems utilize a single receiver, single dish, an invacom LNB, and a motor, you will need a switch (Diseqc or 22khz) so that the LNB is able to switch between the circular and linear outputs.

This set up offers the most flexibility (channel wise and bird wise) although there may be a delay when changing channels if the dish has to move to a new position.

Other than that, a great choice for a set up.

Creative Genius
P.S. Thanks to Bill of Oz for pointing out the switch issue which I had overlooked.

[bill of oz]

Originally Posted by creativegenius

Most motorized systems utilize a single receiver, single dish, an invacom LNB, and a motor, no switches are needed as you only have one LNB.

actually a switch (diseqc or 22khz) is nessessary with that lnb to switch between the circular and linear outputs.....

[kndmthrfxer]

So I'm putting together a list of pros & cons for motorized vs. stationary:

Pros:
1.) One dish/lnb can catch many locations.
2.) Avoids the sat/dish farm look.
3.) Least costly, best value channels per dollar.

Cons:
1.) Cannot share with multiple recvs., cannot multitask.
2.) Really has to have a solid mount and perfect alignment.
3.) Needs an extra run of cable.
4.) Have to wait for dish to switch positions while surfing.

Can you think of others?

[creativegenius]

I agree with all of your PRO's.

With respect to the CONS:

All SAT set ups require #2
#3, You can get a decent Reciever for True FTA pretty inexpensively (Coolsat 4000)
#4, A decent motor will provide years of good service.

Creative Genius

[kndmthrfxer]

Originally Posted by creativegenius

I agree with all of your PRO's.

With respect to the CONS:

All SAT set ups require #2
#3, You can get a decent Reciever for True FTA pretty inexpensively (Coolsat 4000)
#4, A decent motor will provide years of good service.

Creative Genius

Thanks

Are the coolsats the best value for this then?

With regard to #2, I'd read that this was a deal breaker for the motorized setups because of the eccentric created by rotating the dish with even the slightest bit of misalignment. I only include it here because with the frost heave that happens where I live, I'll need to dig 4~5 ft and back fill with gravel and concrete for a stable mount.

kmf

[Bobby67fb]

You need a larger dish for the linear sats so would really have a large sat farm. Check out lyngsat before you buy anything and see if the programming is what your looking for G10r is the best, and its strictly back up for me.

[kndmthrfxer]

I found this post describing a setup which will basically achieve what I'm after:

http://www.abadss.com/forum/29-fta-a...tml#post531863

Thanks Sky_Pilot!

So what I'll do is put the chieta or ecoda 22khz switch between my JVI 35-DN34 and the run to my stb. (Does it have to be a chieta to pass DiseQC?) The other input to the 22 khz switch will be strung from the 4x1 DiseQC switch hooked to the Invacom quad linear/circular lnb via the motor.

This is a great setup because I can continue to share the stationary 110/118.7/119 fta channels like NASA and basic local rabbit ears (HD) with the folks who rent the other units. And, The cable run to my unit will also bring the extra motorized goodies!

Additionaly, I see that bill_of_oz likes the traxis and satopia brands for their blind scanning capabilities.

http://www.abadss.com/forum/889-true...ghlight=traxis

I'll try to get one of these on the cheap if my VS 9000HD proves to be a worthless POS for blind scans. Could I just use the loop through to hook this up? Or, will I also need a splitter off of the diplexer?


Thanks

kmf

[arboristman]

Originally Posted by kndmthrfxer

So I'm putting together a list of pros & cons for motorized vs. stationary:

Pros:
1.) One dish/lnb can catch many locations.
2.) Avoids the sat/dish farm look.
3.) Least costly, best value channels per dollar.

Cons:
1.) Cannot share with multiple recvs., cannot multitask.
2.) Really has to have a solid mount and perfect alignment.
3.) Needs an extra run of cable.
4.) Have to wait for dish to switch positions while surfing.

Can you think of others?

another pro- the larger the dish,the higher the quality and less rain fade.
so when the neighbors tv's start pixing and sweaking and they turn off the tube and read a book,you have a better chance at resting in easy chair like its not raining out at all.

i didn't toss in the other quote from ya.
but you mentioned satopia being a good blind scanner.sataopia and icon s550 are pretty much same stb.and coded by the same coders.the d1 group,or new blacklist,or whatever they want to be called lmao.
nice support.and yup blind scan is really nice.adjustable and accurate.
good motor controls as well.

and this part:
"I'll try to get one of these on the cheap if my VS 9000HD proves to be a worthless POS for blind scans."

well,get the wallet out.

[kndmthrfxer]

Originally Posted by arboristman

and this part:
"I'll try to get one of these on the cheap if my VS 9000HD proves to be a worthless POS for blind scans."

well,get the wallet out.

I guess there wasn't room left on the flash / PCB for a good blind scan function? Had to make room for autoroll and rev. 2 cooling.