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Old January 25th, 2005   #1 (permalink)
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The Phase III oval dish (FAQ)

I found this info on another forum, thanks to Tintino


U can't use the Phase 3 dish for DTV and Pansat at the same time because you're pointing to different sats.

How to calculate and use Skew:
Skew= vertical offset (twist) in degrees from the vertical (from the 90 degrees mark on your dish)
1. Go to Satellite Nut page
2. Enter your location info.
3. Calculate skew for the 2 outter satellites on your dish (for the pansat setup on Phaze3 that would be 91 and 119)
4. Add them toghether and divide by 2
5. U get the skew number. (Disregard the minus sign if its negative)

To use SKEW:
You must ensure that the top of the mast is perfectly plum. Best thing is to use an eye round level (home depot,tools section - $3) that u put right on top of the mast. You do that BEFORE you even put the dish on the mast.

If you are on the EAST coast, skew = counter-clockwise rotation in degrees from the 90 deg mark on your phaze 3 dish. Set your dish to 90 minus the skew number
If you are on the WEST coast, skew = clockwise rotation in degrees from the 90 deg mark on your phaze 3 dish. Set dish to 90 plus the skew number

Receiver setup
No diseq switch is needed, only one wire needs to be connected to the Phase 3
91: 22khz OFF, Diseq - OFF (or ON - doesnt matter)
110: 22khz ON, Diseq - OFF (or ON - doesnt matter)

Can i also get 119 on this dish?
Yes, if you have an additional DTV or DN (circular) LNB laying around, you can strap it to the LEFT of the 3 existing LNBs (looking from behind the dish). You will now have to use a DiseqC switch to switch between the wire from the Phaze 3 and the wire from the strapped LNB.
Receiver setup with the strapped on 119 LNB
*********uming u put the wire from the Phaze 3 in port #1 and the wire from the strapped LNB in port #2, your setup will be:
91: 22 khz OFF, Diseq #1
110: 22khz ON, Diseq #1
119: 22khz OFF (or ON - doesnt matter), Diseq #2

Can i also get 82 on this dish?
Yes, if you have an additional DTV or DN (circular) LNB laying around, you can strap it to the RIGHT of the 3 existing LNBs (looking from behind the dish). You will now have to use a DiseqC switch to switch between the wire from the Phaze 3 and the wire from the strapped LNB.
Receiver setup with the strapped on 82 LNB
*********uming u put the wire from the Phaze 3 in port #1 and the wire from the strapped LNB in port #3, your setup will be:
91: 22 khz OFF, Diseq #1
110: 22khz ON, Diseq #1
82: 22khz OFF (or ON - doesnt matter), Diseq #3
 
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hey dssman

correct me if im wrong pls, i have phase III dtv oval dish, my zip code is 33161, my skew for sat 91 is 21.1 and for the 110 is 45.7, so i ad this two numbers and divide them by 2 and because im in the east coast i substract the result from 90..so my skew is gonna be 56.6, is that correct? and i have the cable connected to the first lnb starting from the left if you are behind the dish..plss help...and thanks..
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When I turn 110: 22khz ON, Diseq #1
I get no quality signal. Why is that?
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if this sat is used for 101 110 119 at the same time i sub to dave u think i could use the phase three to catch my pansat and dave at the same time starting to get dishes every were dave reqires 2 sats for my area for locals and they all happen to be right out front my house on a main rd trying to get less thanks in advance i know 91 wont work
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More info about The Phase III oval dish

Since 3 LNBs on Phase III have same distance with each other, It only receives set of 101, 110 and 119. Because 119 - 110 = 9 degree, and 110 - 101 = 9 degree.
In other hand, try take look at elevation of dish for those sats, 101 is 32 degree, 110 is 27 degree and 119 is 22 degree ( for Boston location). You see that they are 5 degree different in elevation. So this sats set will not include sats 91w as said by dssman.

By default (all 22Khz OFF), only LNB on the right working (look from back of the dish). If you want the middle and the left LNB work, you have to turn 22KHz ON for those LNBs.

With my example above, you easily find TILT degree for that set.
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What about to use that dish for 61.5 and 82? Probably with the 4 LNB holder and 2 standard LNBs. Is it possible? Did any1 do that?
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Too much of a distance, you would need another dish then the one you have unless it's elliptical, but your best bet is get a motor.
Not really. 3 LNBs = 18 degres, 4 - 27, 82-61.5 = 20.5, so it's less when 27 that the 4 LNBs bracket is sold for.
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