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Viewsat ULTRA clones are coming!

Starting with the cardboard box the unit comes in
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On the original:
Dimensions are
L= 36.8cm
W=26.7cm
H=7.8cm

On the top of the box (lid), bottom left the logo with DVB DiSEqC 1.2”
The image is not crisp on the original. It looks as if it was scanned and reprinted
Yes, I said on the original, blurry.

The serial number on the flap of the lid:
Under the UPC code,
S39F02U…
Text is large and almost takes the length of the code.

On the right side of the box,
Bottom right,
“MADE IN KOREA”



On the counterfeit
Dimensions are:
L=36.4cm
W=26.8cm
H=7.8cm

On the top of the box ( the lid), bottom left the logo with DVB DiSEqC 1.2”
The image is CRISP on the counterfeit. It looks as if it was an original print.

The serial number on the flap of the lid:
Under the UPC code,
S39F02U…
The sequence is identical but the text size is smaller than the authentic
And takes less space under the UPC code

On the right side of the box,
Bottom right,
“MADE IN KOREA”, with a sticker on top stating
“MADE IN CHINA” that is removable with use of a lighter fluid or hot air



The unit itself:


On the Original:
The RCA Connectors in the back of the unit , the colored plastic center are flat.

The six screws that holds the cover are shiny round heads.

The USB logo on the door that opens is dark redish
Behind the door just right of the USB connector, on the wall inside the rectangular inlet, there is an outline of a rectangle

The serial number on the underside
Under the UPC code,
S39F02U…
Text is large and almost takes the length of the code.

The underside of the unit, the plate that supports the PC Boards has six places where the metal is pressed and shaped to be used as threaded stand offs.
There are three silver hex nuts press fit in the plate
Also on the plate, in the cluster of air holes located in the center towards the face, there’s an area void of holes.

Presently, the remote control is bigger on the ULTRA than with the Xtreme or Platinum.
(Production of newer Xtremes will have the same remote as ULTRA’s)
The AAA batteries included for the remote is made by Supergurd



On the counterfeit:
The RCA Connectors in the back of the unit , the colored plastic center are beveled.

The six screws that holds the cover are not as shiny and the heads are not as rounded.

The USB logo on the door that opens is brown redish and does not stand out as much as the original.
Behind the door just right of the USB connector, on the wall inside the rectangular inlet, the outline of a rectangle is missing.

The serial number on the underside
Under the UPC code,
S39F02U…
The sequence is identical but the text size is smaller
And takes less space under the UPC code

The underside of the unit, the plate that supports the PC Boards is flat.
The three silver hex nuts press fit in the plate are not present.
Also on the plate, inside the cluster of air holes located in the center towards the face,
holes are located where there supposed to be no holes


Presently, the remote is the same as the Xtreme lacking the words “VIEWSAT” on the bottom .( I’m told that Production of future remotes will be identical as ULTRA’s)
The AAA batteries included for the remote is made by SonEsta




there are other differences such as the AC power cable made by a different supplier ( also text is larger than original) and there is a space gap where the AC connector goes into the receiver on the fake. The RCA video/audio cable – color slightly darker on the fake and the six circular grip ridges on the original is replaced by oval grip patches.


I was not yet given the opportunity to try plugging in and see what it gets, but according to my client, he says that the rep that loaned him the clone claims the public won’t see a difference.
In my opinion
If the Viewsat Xtreme counterfeits tricked 50% of the buyers,
The Ultra will deceive 95%
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Re: Viewsat ULTRA clones are coming!

Thanks for the information
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Re: Viewsat ULTRA clones are coming!

Thanks for the good info.
I know u allways have good advice.
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Re: Viewsat ULTRA clones are coming!

to not risk buying a junk clone you can make sure to buy from authorized viewsat dealers by going here also:

Viewsatusa.com - Introducing the VS2000

remember,clones are illegal.
clone support is bad,or none at all.
bins will kill clones.
and most of all,they hurt the real viewsat company.
stay away at all cost's.
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Re: Viewsat ULTRA clones are coming!

Note: The pictures posted above by grasshopper WILL NOT tell you if you have a clone or not! I have an ultra clone that was verified by the veiwsat people it looks Exactly like the (original) pictures above. Like viewsat people told me every day the clones are looking more and more like the originals the packaging, the outside case, even the motherboards are almost exact duplicates. The clones don't fool 95% of the people it's more like 99.9%. I researched viewsat ultras for hours to the point of knowing everything to look for in spotting a clone. And believe me the new clones out there are getting to be perfect copies(I bought mine 2 months ago).
Viewsat told me today that sometimes the only way to spot a clone is to take off the cover with the unit facing you and look at the left hand side where the power supply is you will see a transformer with a yellow tag on it the number printed on it will start with XP 126 if it starts with any else its a clone (Mine was HC EC28). Viewsat said the clones were even working on changing this.
Like Arboristman said if you don't buy from an Authorized Veiwsat dealer you are taking a chance on some clone junk. Your junk might work today but sometime in the future when you have to update your RCVR you will end up with an expensive paperweight. I got burned trying to save a few bucks and so will you if you don't listen!
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Thanks for the information
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Re: Viewsat ULTRA clones are coming!

Always buy from trusted seller, so you don't end up getting Clones.

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Re: Viewsat ULTRA clones are coming!

What can i do if i buy a clon
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