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Originally Posted by tensor
SatelliteJunkie,
Hello, my friend. I do respect your chrome; you have staked your extensive reputation on your representation that the "higher end" Coolsat units will always be supported by third party venders, such as NORW Group. Wow!
If you are aware of the Dish Network's stock holder's meeting in January last, you hold and know that the owners approved implementation of Nagra3 before the end of this year. It is public information. Why are you withholding your knowledge?
History...
The Nagra2 decryption came from Europe. It filtered down to the US through rom102 hacks. It then filtered down to fta implementation. Fta gave no credit to the Europeans or rom102 hackers. NORW Group, the number one fta hacker, took credit for the hack. It will not be so easy next round.
It took a year. Credit for the hack was misrepresented.
The approved Nagra3 implementation by Echostar is destined in a few months. The fta hardware suppliers are selling as many "newer" units as they can before their destined "slump". No, it's not over.
However, when Narga3 or 4 is placed in the stream, you, SatelliteJunkie, shall have lost your reputation, at your request. All units will be down for a considerable length of time. Logically speaking, you already have lost your wager, as it is inevitable. Read the Dish Network stockholder stuff. It's Echostar stuff. The very same thing happened with another fellow pertaining to DTV. He is still out in the dark.
You do have chrome, my friend. Don't wager your rep again; unless you are a compulsive gambler.
Notice:
All units will be down with the implementation of Nagra3 in the next few months. It might optimistically take the Europreans a year or so to hack the new encryption and system. We will have to wait for the rom decoders releases [fta groups don't do the actual nagra hacks], and fta mis-credit protocal has made that revelation unlikely; the rom sites are now private!
Don't spontaneously buy any fta receiver.....yet. Read the Dish Network annual meeting of stockholders. It is a done deal. Read it first "elsewhere"; you won't get it here. Right, SatelliteJunkie?
Watch out, guys. Don't even listen to the representations that seem .....real.
All Coolsat FTA units will be up, as designed, for true fta.
Watch out, my friends.
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Thanks for your info tensor.
Information is always welcome here...that is how we all learn more about FTA.
I don't believe I was "withholding my knowledge"...
I don't recall your asking me about it.
You are looking at the BIG picture...and your comments are correct about nagra3 & nagra4...however, I don't worry right now about what might happen in a year or two from now.
We worry about the short term...keeping our members supported with firmware files.
We however are not coders...or hackers...or hardware manufacturers.
Our job is to run this web site...and that's all we do.
I never said your unit would work forever...and I don't expect to remain up forever either.
As a tester, we are happy to be up when we can...and most of us realize that there will be periods of time when nobody is up...that is out of our control. (and yours too)
So we will cross that bridge when we come to it...and roll with the punches.
We are all just bottom feeders in FTA...and once that is realized...it's a day by day cat & mouse game.
PS. I don't come here to worry about my reputation.
I come here to help others with information & knowledge that I have gained over the years of my own testing...in an attempt to give back what others have given me in the past.
And I thank you again for sharing your knowledge with all of us...you may know more than I do about FTA, so by all means...please step up and share it with us friend.
