update!!no bin needed all channels up!!

[medamotcha]

i have an sp6000 reg..up on all channels, NO BIN needed....i bet all nuesats are working?
can we get some feed back...sorry no bev....let us nuesat testers know if the pre and the hd are working with no bin?

sorry i made a boo boo...when you do a defalt your current BIN will stay in you stb....so thair is a BIN in your box...sorry for the mix up

[SatelliteJunkie]

Everything on DN is wide open buddy...has been all month.
I wish you didn't start so many threads saying the same thing. (that we already knew about for weeks)

All receivers need a bin to work...but most all old bins are working.

[medamotcha]

Originally Posted by SatelliteJunkie

Everything on DN is wide open buddy...has been all month.
I wish you didn't start so many threads saying the same thing. (that we already knew about for weeks)

All receivers need a bin to work...but most all old bins are working.

yea i knew that but with a bin...this time i didient use a bin..and if i could have used one thread i would have...thair all sepret...but sorry...i want ed to see if the nuesat pre,lite,hd would work with no bin? also?

[SatelliteJunkie]

Originally Posted by medamotcha

yea i knew that but with a bin...this time i didient use a bin..and if i could have used one thread i would have...thair all sepret...but sorry...i want ed to see if the nuesat pre,lite,hd would work with no bin? also?

An FTA box can not work without a bin.
If you go into MENU and go to system information, you will see the bin version your unit is currently operating on.
One might compare a bin file to an operating system like Windows on your PC...it won't work without it.

You are mistaken an old bin, for NO bin. (maybe what you meant was no new bin)

The only reason everybody is "wide open & up" on DN, all month long is, because they are not broadcasting any ECMs in the data stream...due to too many complaints about being down by their customers. (and trust me...that won't last very long)

[medamotcha]

Originally Posted by SatelliteJunkie

An FTA box can not work without a bin.
If you go into MENU and go to system information, you will see the bin version your unit is currently operating on.
One might compare a bin file to an operating system like Windows on your PC...it won't work without it.

You are mistaken an old bin, for NO bin. (maybe what you meant was no new bin)

The only reason everybody is "wide open & up" on DN, all month long is, because they are not broadcasting any ECMs in the data stream...due to too many complaints about being down by their customers. (and trust me...that won't last very long)

ok its the factory defalt bin....i never put anything back in to it.. ....i was just messing around and i just wanted to try it....i guess that y thay call it testing.....im learning...i thought you had to put the most updated file for it to work.but you dont....ive been seeing that a lot of people were asking if the newest bin would work...or dident work...when really all thay would have to do was a defalt....for now...all i was trying to do was help them.

[medamotcha]

but i havent seen anyone test and put it out on the nuesat section...like no one needs a bin....

[SatelliteJunkie]

Originally Posted by medamotcha

ok its the factory defalt bin....i never put anything back in to it.. ....i was just messing around and i just wanted to try it....i guess that y thay call it testing.....im learning...i thought you had to put the most updated file for it to work.but you dont....ive been seeing that a lot of people were asking if the newest bin would work...or dident work...when really all thay would have to do was a defalt....for now...all i was trying to do was help them.

Actually, it would not be the factory bin.
The factory bin or flash file is the way you get the box when new from manfacturer.
Then we put a different bin file on it to open the channels for DN & BEV.
All I have been saying is...your unit is up on an older bin file.
If you flash the unit with the factory bin...then you can only catch TRUE FTA channels...not DN or BEV.
And I'm not trying to give you a hard time...just trying to make it clear how it works so you better understand.

[medamotcha]

Originally Posted by SatelliteJunkie

Actually, it would not be the factory bin.
The factory bin or flash file is the way you get the box when new from manfacturer.
Then we put a different bin file on it to open the channels for DN & BEV.
All I have been saying is...your unit is up on an older bin file.
If you flash the unit with the factory bin...then you can only catch TRUE FTA channels...not DN or BEV.
And I'm not trying to give you a hard time...just trying to make it clear how it works so you better understand.

ok,than what bin is it when you factory defalt? scan channels?does it fall back to the defalted bin?wipe it clean?like starting over?....ive done some programming my self and if i would mess up i would defalt and start over?if i could fix what i messed up.even though the bin is preprogramed file.explain?than y wouldent the stb dump the bin and fall back on the factory defalted file?...ok so what your saying the when you defalt..the bin stays in the stb and wips out the sats and channels?and the only real way is to use the stb loader.to truly defalt the box?

[lonster]

If you have flashed your box to a 3rd party bin it will recognize the new bin as factory. So if you "factory default you will go back to default settings on whatever bin you have installed.

If you re-flash to the original factory bin you will find you are blacked out.

Hope this helps.

[medamotcha]

Originally Posted by SatelliteJunkie

Actually, it would not be the factory bin.
The factory bin or flash file is the way you get the box when new from manfacturer.
Then we put a different bin file on it to open the channels for DN & BEV.
All I have been saying is...your unit is up on an older bin file.
If you flash the unit with the factory bin...then you can only catch TRUE FTA channels...not DN or BEV.
And I'm not trying to give you a hard time...just trying to make it clear how it works so you better understand.

thx i found out..sorry but i dident understand..like you were saying flash the unit...im going (ummm duh)you have to talk to us people like we dont know tech talk....i understand tech talk but not for this type of programing....but if you deal with customers you have to talk so thay can understand....but thx .....and sorry i made a boo boo...

here some thx satjunkie and lonster

[SatelliteJunkie]

Originally Posted by medamotcha

thx i found out..sorry but i dident understand..like you were saying flash the unit...im going (ummm duh)you have to talk to us people like we dont know tech talk....i understand tech talk but not for this type of programing....but if you deal with customers you have to talk so thay can understand....but thx .....and sorry i made a boo boo...

No problem man...here are a few points that might help.
Once you load a bin file (3rd party/from coders) to the unit...it will remain there until you rewrite over it with a newer version. (you can't "dump a bin")
Even when you do a reset (which removes the channels & any bugs) the last bin you loaded will not be effected by the database reset.
The reset WILL effect your dish settings and remove them. (so you have to put them back)
If you load the Factory bin (or flash it with the factory bin) the receiver will be virgin again, like when it was new.
It will catch some birds...but it won't get DN or BEV until you load the current (3rd party) bin.

My CoolSat6100 still works on bin 149...and it also works on the current bin 162. (and all between)
Most times this is not the case (only the current bin will work)...but due to the lack of ECM's by DN this month...we are up on all kinds of old bins.

You are correct about this: if you attempt to setup a unit & something goes wrong...just do a reset & start over again...it's good practice.
When the settings are right...you will get a good signal...then you can scan the birds.