Thanks for all the great info,I was away from my place for awile so didn't get to deal with my receiver.It is doing okay,but twin sister's is doing its natural turning off on thing. She doesn't know anything about them so I have to.Reading in the forums sure does help me.Like I said,my special electronic tek friend passed a year ago & I get some info from his twin brother,But most from you guys and the forums.So THANKS many times. countrygirl8