ipro 2000 Any Word???

[piko111647]

3 days with no TV. any word on when the coders will have us up and running on 8 cylinders?

[RobertBrown]

I would like 1 cylinder right now last time they said we would be down this time it just happened with no word again if they are playing with iks to make it better great but first release a working bin I am sure for v2 this would not be hard for them I just feel there planning is all backwards

[basscat02]

Hey RB, I would be happy to pass on any advice you may have for the coders that would help them. I'm sure their work is not easy.
Thanks

[tb1971]

So The Reason Were Down Isnt Cuz Of The Last Ecm But That They Are Working On Something Better For Cardless/iks Bass?

[Bud_Alcor]

Well V2 said that the Hybrid IKs will be around ETA 4-7-08? let see what hapens on tha day.

[bbondenator]

thats my birthday what a great b-day present that would be for all channels towork on IKS hybrid

[Bud_Alcor]

Originally Posted by bbondenator

thats my birthday what a great b-day present that would be for all channels towork on IKS hybrid

Is estimated date. V2 is not real sure. We justhave to wait what happens.

[boodro]

not impressed with iks that is going to work all the time and I noticed it has been down 2 out of the 5 days we been down just a plain code will be good thing

[RobertBrown]

Originally Posted by basscat02

Hey RB, I would be happy to pass on any advice you may have for the coders that would help them. I'm sure their work is not easy.
Thanks

I hope you don't think I am knocking neosat I am not but v2 team are one of the best coding teams out there today and with just about all other boxes working would think they would release a cardless fix then go back to the iks and no one would be wondering whats up I do think they are working very hard on the new iks but if everyone runs away from the box it will not matter and I still think this will be the box to hold up to the test of time

[Bud_Alcor]

Yeah Neo will stay for a long time.

[Metric]

Originally Posted by Bud_Alcor

Well V2 said that the Hybrid IKs will be around ETA 4-7-08? let see what hapens on tha day.

The 7th? Thats over a week of down time. It would be nice if we could get a cardless fix in the mean time.

[basscat02]

Originally Posted by tb1971

So The Reason Were Down Isnt Cuz Of The Last Ecm But That They Are Working On Something Better For Cardless/iks Bass?

Hey t, we have no idea what the priorities of the coders are. We have to wait like everyone else. I would like to think that they would get us a cardless fix up if they know they will be a while with getting IKS out. I'm sorry buddy, I do not have the answers yall want.

[Bud_Alcor]

Originally Posted by Metric

The 7th? Thats over a week of down time. It would be nice if we could get a cardless fix in the mean time.

I just write what they have on their site. We all want the best for the Neo.

[arboristman]

Originally Posted by RobertBrown

I would like 1 cylinder right now

well you have that.
in fact probably more.

1.free to air.(123w is great to have for backup)


2.ch 199 i hear is up.(CHILLER)on dn cardless v 283.tp 12486
along with radio.

3. all your pvr recordings you recorded while you where sleeping over the last month.that alone should = many many hours.

4. all your pvred hard copies you made.that should be hundreds and hundreds of hours.

5.another lower priced basic unit.like cw or captain.
worth having 2 brands for sure.

there are many many things to do on our part to eliminate down time completely.its not coding,so we take the steps we can.


ch 100 tip:
press the OPT button and change the language to switch the audio feeds.

[EHG]

WARNING - ANOTHER VERBOSE POST BY EHG - WARNING

YES IT'S TRUE I'M KNOWN WORLDWIDE FOR SAYING IN 500 WORDS WHAT OTHERS CAN COMMUNICATE IN 50!! AND JUST FOR THE RECORD YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN WARNING AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO READ MY POSTS I WISH TO STATE CATEGORICALLY THAT I AM NOT PAYING FOR UPDATED PRESCRIPTION GLASSES FOR ANYONE

NOW BACK TO THE SUBJECT - Re: THE THREAD TITLE

WHAT BOTHERS ME MOST ABOUT NEOSAT BEING DOWN BOTH WITH IKS & A CARDLESS FIX IS THAT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THEIR DECISION MAKING PROCESS IS FLAWED!!

SEEMS TO ME THAT MANY OF THESE COMPANIES THAT DEAL IN FTA PRODUCTS BOTH ON A RETAIL BASIS (A CERTAIN SITE SPONSOR HERE) AND A MAJOR BRAND WHOSE PRODUCT IS OFTEN IDENTIFIED WITH JUST TWO LETTERS (CS) AREN'T HAPPY WHEN THEY MAKE AN OBVIOUS ERROR THAT IS DETRIMENTAL TO THEIR LONG TERM VIABILITY - RATHER THEN CHANGE BEHAVIOR THEY JUST DIG IN AND GET STUBBORN

I GUESS ANOTHER WAY OF PUTTING THIS IS:

THEY JUST DON'T SEEM TO BE HAPPY AFTER THEY ACCIDENTLY OR ON PURPOSE SHOOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT - NOPE NOT THESE GUYS RATHER THEN LISTEN AND LEARN WHILE THEY ARE HOPPING AROUND ON 1 FOOT THEY JUST LIFT THE DANG GUN UP A BIT AND GUT SHOOT THEMSELVES!!

PRIORITIES!! MOST DEFINITELY AN IMPROVED (HYBRID) IKS SYSTEM WITH MORE CHANNELS AND SATS AND SOME OF THE FEW REMAINING BUGS EXTERMINATED WILL BE NICE AS I SAID IN A FEW POSTS - I BELIEVE IN THE V2NEO TEAM AND IT DOES JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER AND BETTER - AND WE ARE ALL AWARE THAT UNLIKE A CERTAIN OTHER COMPETITOR THAT IS IKS DEPENDANT THE NEOSAT ALSO HAS A CARDLESS SOLUTION (USUALLY) - THEREFORE I THINK IT CAN BE SAID WITH SOME CERTAINTY THAT IF MANY IF NOT ALL OF THE MAJOR BRAND NAME COMPETITORS WERE ABLE TO COME OUT WITH A CARDLESS FIX FOR THE 3/27 ECM WITHIN A DAY OR TWO OF IT'S OCCURANCE (WITH THE NOT SURPRISING EXCEPTION OF THE norw team)- V2 ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE RAPIDLY PUT TOGETHER A TEMP CARDLESS ONLY SOLUTION TO THE LAST ECM.

THEREFORE ONE MUST ASSUME THAT V2 HAS APPARENTLY DECIDED TO UTILIZE ALL HIS TIME AND EFFORT ON THE NEW HYBRID IKS SOLUTION AND BY DOING SO IS ALIENATING MORE EXISTING USERS OF THE NEOSAT PRODUCT AND MANY MANY MORE POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS THEN I THINK HE REALIZES -

IT IS DEFINITELY NOT A WISE DECISION TO HAVE THE NEOSAT BRAND DOWN WHILE MOST OTHERS ARE UP - SO WHAT ARE THE TWO MAJOR BRAND NAMES OF FTA RECEIVERS THAT ARE NOW DOWN WITH MANY UNHAPPY HOBBYISTS - hmmmmm I guess that would be COOLSAT AND NEOSAT --- IMHO --- THOSE TWO NAMES SHOULD NEVER I REPEAT NEVER BE ASSOCIATED IN ANYWAY WHATSOEVER - ESPECIALLY AS NON-FUNCTIONING RECEIVERS WHILE MOST OTHERS ARE UP!! LIKE I SAID BEFORE DOESN'T SUPRISE ME ANYMORE TO SEE COOLSAT GUT SHOOT THEMSELVES WITH A 357 MAGNUM - JUST HOPING THAT V2 DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING BIGGER THEN A BB GUN!

V2 DEDICATING HIMSELF TO THE HYBRID IKS SYSTEM AT THE MOMENT IS AN ASSUMPTION ON MY PART BASED ON LITTLE OR NO ACTUAL INFORMATION - HECK FOR ALL I KNOW IT COULD BE THAT THE NORW TEAM KIDNAPPED V2 AND ARE HOLDING HIM UNTIL HE REVEALS SECRET STUFF -

ONCE UPON A TIME LONG LONG AGO I WAS A MANUFACTURER OF ACE (ADVANCED CONSUMER ELECTRONICS) PRODUCTS - WITH PLANTS IN BOTH THE USA and MEXICO (YES ONCE UPON A TIME THE USA DID ACTUALLY MANUFACTURE STUFF WITHIN IT'S OWN BORDERS). FTA PRODUCTS FALL INTO THE ADVANCED COMSUMER ELECTRONICS INDUSTRY THAT BY IT'S VERY NATURE RAPIDLY CHANGES. I CAN STATE WITH A KNOWLEDGE THAT I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE BUT A VERY ERRORS IN JUDGEMENT TO GO FROM A RAPIDLY EXPANDING VERY PROFITABLE COMPANY TO ONE THAT IS HEMORRHAGING SO MANY DOLLARS THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN AFFORD ENOUGH RED INK TO FILL OUT THE BALANCE SHEETS.

V2 AND NEOSATUSA - DON'T REALLY KNOW IF YOU WILL EVER READ THIS POST - PERHAPS SOMEONE HERE WHO IS IN THE KNOW MIGHT PASS IT ALONG - IF YOU LEARN JUST ONE THING OUT OF THIS VERY VERBOSE POSTING IT SHOULD BE--DON'T EVER AND I DO MEAN EVER TAKE YOUR CUSTOMERS AND POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS FOR GRANTED!! CAUSE YOU WILL RUE THE DAY THAT YOU DID! - EVEN IF YOU HAVE A PRODUCT THAT IS NOT ONLY COMPETITIVELY PRICED BUT SUPERIOR TO YOUR COMPETITORS, BECAUSE THAT ALONE WILL NOT SUFFICE - NEOSAT / V2 - LOOK HARD AT COOLSAT - YOU KNOW THE FTA MARKET - HOW MANY SALES (THOUSANDS PERHAPS TENS OF THOUSANDS) DO YOU THINK COOLSAT HAS LOST OVER THE LAST 8 MONTHS TO A YEAR AS THEY HAVE ALL BUT DESTROYED THEIR REPUTATION AS A COMPANY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T OR WON'T PROVIDE TIMELY SUPPORT FOR THEIR RECEIVERS AND HAVE ARBITRARILY CHANGED THE TIME FRAME ON THEIR WARRANTY ON CERTAIN BOXES BECAUSE OF CLONING ISSUES FOR WHICH THE OWNERS OF THEIR GENUINE PRODUCTS CERTAINLY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR.

MOST DEFINITELY IF THE NEOSATS ARE UP AND RUNNING AGAIN WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME FRAME - IT WON'T PUT YOU INTO THE COOLSAT CATEGORY FOR THEY HAVE HAD MONTHS AND MONTHS OF PRACTICE AT ALIENATING THEIR CUSTOMER BASE, BUT YOU ARE HURTING YOURSELF - DON'T THINK OTHERWISE!!

Just some free advice learned the hardway. When it comes to advice all I can say is one should never dismiss it without contemplating it. Easy enough to decide if any or all of it could be of value - if one decides that advice is not germain to one's own situation it's easy to just shrug one's shoulders and forget it. As humans we have an enormous amount of RAM between our ears so mere contemplation of the knowledge of others based on their experiences won't clog much of it up

Having said all that I'm going to be mighty pissed if NEOSAT is not around as a viable company a year or two from now!! As for CS - personally I think they are raising that dang 357 and going for a straight shot between the eyes - if they are here a year or so from now using that brand name - I'll be mighty surprised!!

[arboristman]

jeez EHG,its only been a couple days buddy lol
my ipro is rocking on 123w right now.worth every penny for it too.

[Bud_Alcor]

Originally Posted by EHG

WARNING - ANOTHER VERBOSE POST BY EHG - WARNING

YES IT'S TRUE I'M KNOWN WORLDWIDE FOR SAYING IN 500 WORDS WHAT OTHERS CAN COMMUNICATE IN 50!! AND JUST FOR THE RECORD YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN WARNING AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO READ MY POSTS I WISH TO STATE CATEGORICALLY THAT I AM NOT PAYING FOR UPDATED PRESCRIPTION GLASSES FOR ANYONE

NOW BACK TO THE SUBJECT - Re: THE THREAD TITLE

WHAT BOTHERS ME MOST ABOUT NEOSAT BEING DOWN BOTH WITH IKS & A CARDLESS FIX IS THAT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THEIR DECISION MAKING PROCESS IS FLAWED!!

SEEMS TO ME THAT MANY OF THESE COMPANIES THAT DEAL IN FTA PRODUCTS BOTH ON A RETAIL BASIS (A CERTAIN SITE SPONSOR HERE) AND A MAJOR BRAND WHOSE PRODUCT IS OFTEN IDENTIFIED WITH JUST TWO LETTERS (CS) AREN'T HAPPY WHEN THEY MAKE AN OBVIOUS ERROR THAT IS DETRIMENTAL TO THEIR LONG TERM VIABILITY - RATHER THEN CHANGE BEHAVIOR THEY JUST DIG IN AND GET STUBBORN

I GUESS ANOTHER WAY OF PUTTING THIS IS:

THEY JUST DON'T SEEM TO BE HAPPY AFTER THEY ACCIDENTLY OR ON PURPOSE SHOOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT - NOPE NOT THESE GUYS RATHER THEN LISTEN AND LEARN WHILE THEY ARE HOPPING AROUND ON 1 FOOT THEY JUST LIFT THE DANG GUN UP A BIT AND GUT SHOOT THEMSELVES!!

PRIORITIES!! MOST DEFINITELY AN IMPROVED (HYBRID) IKS SYSTEM WITH MORE CHANNELS AND SATS AND SOME OF THE FEW REMAINING BUGS EXTERMINATED WILL BE NICE AS I SAID IN A FEW POSTS - I BELIEVE IN THE V2NEO TEAM AND IT DOES JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER AND BETTER - AND WE ARE ALL AWARE THAT UNLIKE A CERTAIN OTHER COMPETITOR THAT IS IKS DEPENDANT THE NEOSAT ALSO HAS A CARDLESS SOLUTION (USUALLY) - THEREFORE I THINK IT CAN BE SAID WITH SOME CERTAINTY THAT IF MANY IF NOT ALL OF THE MAJOR BRAND NAME COMPETITORS WERE ABLE TO COME OUT WITH A CARDLESS FIX FOR THE 3/27 ECM WITHIN A DAY OR TWO OF IT'S OCCURANCE (WITH THE NOT SURPRISING EXCEPTION OF THE norw team)- V2 ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE RAPIDLY PUT TOGETHER A TEMP CARDLESS ONLY SOLUTION TO THE LAST ECM.

THEREFORE ONE MUST ASSUME THAT V2 HAS APPARENTLY DECIDED TO UTILIZE ALL HIS TIME AND EFFORT ON THE NEW HYBRID IKS SOLUTION AND BY DOING SO IS ALIENATING MORE EXISTING USERS OF THE NEOSAT PRODUCT AND MANY MANY MORE POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS THEN I THINK HE REALIZES -

IT IS DEFINITELY NOT A WISE DECISION TO HAVE THE NEOSAT BRAND DOWN WHILE MOST OTHERS ARE UP - SO WHAT ARE THE TWO MAJOR BRAND NAMES OF FTA RECEIVERS THAT ARE NOW DOWN WITH MANY UNHAPPY HOBBYISTS - hmmmmm I guess that would be COOLSAT AND NEOSAT --- IMHO --- THOSE TWO NAMES SHOULD NEVER I REPEAT NEVER BE ASSOCIATED IN ANYWAY WHATSOEVER - ESPECIALLY AS NON-FUNCTIONING RECEIVERS WHILE MOST OTHERS ARE UP!! LIKE I SAID BEFORE DOESN'T SUPRISE ME ANYMORE TO SEE COOLSAT GUT SHOOT THEMSELVES WITH A 357 MAGNUM - JUST HOPING THAT V2 DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING BIGGER THEN A BB GUN!

V2 DEDICATING HIMSELF TO THE HYBRID IKS SYSTEM AT THE MOMENT IS AN ASSUMPTION ON MY PART BASED ON LITTLE OR NO ACTUAL INFORMATION - HECK FOR ALL I KNOW IT COULD BE THAT THE NORW TEAM KIDNAPPED V2 AND ARE HOLDING HIM UNTIL HE REVEALS SECRET STUFF -

ONCE UPON A TIME LONG LONG AGO I WAS A MANUFACTURER OF ACE (ADVANCED CONSUMER ELECTRONICS) PRODUCTS - WITH PLANTS IN BOTH THE USA and MEXICO (YES ONCE UPON A TIME THE USA DID ACTUALLY MANUFACTURE STUFF WITHIN IT'S OWN BORDERS). FTA PRODUCTS FALL INTO THE ADVANCED COMSUMER ELECTRONICS INDUSTRY THAT BY IT'S VERY NATURE RAPIDLY CHANGES. I CAN STATE WITH A KNOWLEDGE THAT I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE BUT A VERY ERRORS IN JUDGEMENT TO GO FROM A RAPIDLY EXPANDING VERY PROFITABLE COMPANY TO ONE THAT IS HEMORRHAGING SO MANY DOLLARS THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN AFFORD ENOUGH RED INK TO FILL OUT THE BALANCE SHEETS.

V2 AND NEOSATUSA - DON'T REALLY KNOW IF YOU WILL EVER READ THIS POST - PERHAPS SOMEONE HERE WHO IS IN THE KNOW MIGHT PASS IT ALONG - IF YOU LEARN JUST ONE THING OUT OF THIS VERY VERBOSE POSTING IT SHOULD BE--DON'T EVER AND I DO MEAN EVER TAKE YOUR CUSTOMERS AND POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS FOR GRANTED!! CAUSE YOU WILL RUE THE DAY THAT YOU DID! - EVEN IF YOU HAVE A PRODUCT THAT IS NOT ONLY COMPETITIVELY PRICED BUT SUPERIOR TO YOUR COMPETITORS, BECAUSE THAT ALONE WILL NOT SUFFICE - NEOSAT / V2 - LOOK HARD AT COOLSAT - YOU KNOW THE FTA MARKET - HOW MANY SALES (THOUSANDS PERHAPS TENS OF THOUSANDS) DO YOU THINK COOLSAT HAS LOST OVER THE LAST 8 MONTHS TO A YEAR AS THEY HAVE ALL BUT DESTROYED THEIR REPUTATION AS A COMPANY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T OR WON'T PROVIDE TIMELY SUPPORT FOR THEIR RECEIVERS AND HAVE ARBITRARILY CHANGED THE TIME FRAME ON THEIR WARRANTY ON CERTAIN BOXES BECAUSE OF CLONING ISSUES FOR WHICH THE OWNERS OF THEIR GENUINE PRODUCTS CERTAINLY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR.

MOST DEFINITELY IF THE NEOSATS ARE UP AND RUNNING AGAIN WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME FRAME - IT WON'T PUT YOU INTO THE COOLSAT CATEGORY FOR THEY HAVE HAD MONTHS AND MONTHS OF PRACTICE AT ALIENATING THEIR CUSTOMER BASE, BUT YOU ARE HURTING YOURSELF - DON'T THINK OTHERWISE!!

Just some free advice learned the hardway. When it comes to advice all I can say is one should never dismiss it without contemplating it. Easy enough to decide if any or all of it could be of value - if one decides that advice is not germain to one's own situation it's easy to just shrug one's shoulders and forget it. As humans we have an enormous amount of RAM between our ears so mere contemplation of the knowledge of others based on their experiences won't clog much of it up

Having said all that I'm going to be mighty pissed if NEOSAT is not around as a viable company a year or two from now!! As for CS - personally I think they are raising that dang 357 and going for a straight shot between the eyes - if they are here a year or so from now using that brand name - I'll be mighty surprised!!

Great post and thank you sharing with us

[tb1971]

Hey Arb What Do You Mean By 123w? What Are You Able To Watch? And How Do I Watch What Your Watching On 123w?

[Bud_Alcor]

Originally Posted by arboristman

jeez EHG,its only been a couple days buddy lol
my ipro is rocking on 123w right now.worth every penny for it too.

Did not the 123W move to 118W? some channels.

[arboristman]

Originally Posted by tb1971

Hey Arb What Do You Mean By 123w? What Are You Able To Watch? And How Do I Watch What Your Watching On 123w?

True free to air(FTA)channels that never go down by providers at 123w KU:

FTA FREE To Air ABA Dss Blog

live with Regis and Kelly

Wheel of Fortune

Jeopardy

ABC Primetime Nightline and Good Morning America News

Major league Baseball

Bonanza

The Fugitive

Ironside

Manniz

Streets Of San Francisco

21 Jump Street

Wild Wild West

Hawaii Five-o

The Untouchables

Mission Impossible

Mork & Mindy

Magnum P.I

Perry Mason

Marcus Wlby, MD

Cowboy Up

World News Now

America This Morning

Good Morning America

The View

7 News at noon

Eye for an Eye

The Nanny

Mad About You

Family Ties

Beverly Hillbillies

Get Smart

Hogans Heroes

All My Children

Gomer Pyle, USMC

Little House on the Prairie

One Life to Live

General Hospital

Happy Days

Lucy Show

Andy Griffith Show

Cheers

Reno 911!

Hunter

The A-Team

Cheaters

Cops

Get Smart

Girlfriends

Gunsmoke

Jerry Springer

Seinfeld

South Park

Stone Undercover

Renegade

UFC Wired

Off Beat Cinema (featuring movies)

24

American Dad

American Idol

Bones

Desire

Family Guy

House

King of The Hill

The OC

Prison Brake

The Simpsons

So You Think You Can Dance?

Trading Spouses

The War At Home

Unreliable Sources

Out There TV

And more


im never down buddy.