loop out to 2nd receiver - ABA DSS

**deanluna** · January 2nd, 2009

I just need to confirm what this does.,.,.I went out of loop on the nF. to lnb in on my cW600p and was getting signal.,.,great feature!.,.,but I only have 91w coming in.,.,.I you had multi lnb's ie. 91w 110w and 119w.,.,will the loop out carry all of these to a 2nd receiver with the same diSEqC settings?

Verme · January 2nd, 2009

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Originally Posted by deanluna

I just need to confirm what this does.,.,.I went out of loop on the nF. to lnb in on my cW600p and was getting signal.,.,great feature!.,.,but I only have 91w coming in.,.,.I you had multi lnb's ie. 91w 110w and 119w.,.,will the loop out carry all of these to a 2nd receiver with the same diSEqC settings?

The loop out doesn't work as a passthrough at all. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe it passes-through all the channels that are on the same vertical tp that the original source (nfusion) is on. It can not be used to connect another sat receiver for full use. You will require another wire/switch etc. if need be.

**deanluna** · January 2nd, 2009

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Originally Posted by Verme

The loop out doesn't work as a passthrough at all. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe is passes-through all the channels that are on the same vertical tp that the original source (nfusion) is on. It can not be used to connect another sat receiver for full use. You will require another wire/switch etc. if need be.

I just tested it.,.,it does work.,.,what you are talking about is going TV out to a 2nd TV.,.,.,

**creativegenius** · January 2nd, 2009

In short yes, but NO, ok well, kind of

Assuming you have two LNB's feeding the nfusion i.e., 110 and 119, the signal from either 110 or 119 is then routed via 'loop out' to the input of your second receiver. The second receiver is dependant upon the port setting of LNB being feed at that time on the first receiver as switches can't be placed in line with the loop out signal.

So, if you are watching 110 on the nfusion, on Port 2, your second receiver can NOT be receiving signals from 119 or port 1 (this is impossible).

The loop out feature only lets you power one stb at a time. So the CW unit will be turned off, in order for this to work. If you power up the CW unit, while connected via loop out, the CW unit will only display the opposite polarity channels i.e., nfusion on a horizontal controlled channel, CW will display only vertically controlled channels. Switch the nfusion to a vertical channel, CW gets horizontals.

Creative Genius

**deanluna** · January 2nd, 2009

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Originally Posted by Verme

The loop out doesn't work as a passthrough at all. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe is passes-through all the channels that are on the same vertical tp that the original source (nfusion) is on. It can not be used to connect another sat receiver for full use. You will require another wire/switch etc. if need be.

I just retested and you're right.,.,I get all horizontal channels on the 2nd receiver because the first one is on a horizontal channel.,.,.you can watch different channels as long as they're on the same ver/horz..,.,hummm.,.,

**deanluna** · January 2nd, 2009

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Originally Posted by creativegenius

In short yes, but NO, ok well, kind of

Assuming you have two LNB's feeding the nfusion i.e., 110 and 119, the signal from either 110 or 119 is then routed via 'loop out' to the input of your second receiver. The second receiver is dependant upon the port setting of LNB being feed at that time on the first receiver as switches can't be placed in line with the loop out signal.

So, if you are watching 110 on the nfusion, on Port 2, your second receiver can NOT be receiving signals from 119 or port 1 (this is impossible).

The loop out feature only lets you power one stb at a time. So the CW unit will be turned off, in order for this to work. If you power up the CW unit, while connected via loop out, the CW unit will only display the opposite polarity channels i.e., nfusion on a horizontal controlled channel, CW will display only vertically controlled channels. Switch the nfusion to a vertical channel, CW gets horizontals.

Creative Genius

ok so If I have the nFusion off(1st in line) then the cw will work with all channels?

**deanluna** · January 2nd, 2009

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Originally Posted by deanluna

ok so If I have the nFusion off(1st in line) then the cw will work with all channels?

nope doesn't work.,.,just tested it.,.,.,get nothing with the nFusion off.,.,.,so what is this output designed to do?.,.,it can't be just to get 1/2 the channels.

**boboisno1** · January 2nd, 2009

I believe that the loop out feature works slightly different between the different makes and models. Some makes will send out the opposite polarity signals to the 2nd receiver when the 1st receiver is on, and will send out both polarities when the first receiver is turned off by the remote. Sometimes the 1st receiver will only send out the signals to the 2nd receiver from whatever sat it is tuned to when it's turned off. i.e if left on 91 it will only provide the 2nd receiver with 91 info. I think that sometimes depending on the different makes and models the 2nd receiver can control the switch and will switch between the different sats when the 1st receiver is turned off. I'm not sure if I'm totally correct in this assumption but I believe that different makes and models act differently and this is the cause for the confusion on how the loop out feature works.

**creativegenius** · January 2nd, 2009

If the nfusion is off, how do you intend to power the LNB feeding the nfusion?

If the nfusion is on 110 when you power off the CW unit, the CW unit can watch 110.

If the CW unit is powered up while 110 is being viewed, then you lose half of the channel choices on the CW thanks to horizontal and vertical polarity. 119 can not be viewed if the nfusion is on 110 period. Switch the nfusion to 119 then the CW gets 119.

Creative Genius

**deanluna** · January 2nd, 2009

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Originally Posted by boboisno1

I believe that the loop out feature works slightly different between the different makes and models. Some makes will send out the opposite polarity signals to the 2nd receiver when the 1st receiver is on, and will send out both polarities when the first receiver is turned off by the remote. Sometimes the 1st receiver will only send out the signals to the 2nd receiver from whatever sat it is tuned to when it's turned off. i.e if left on 91 it will only provide the 2nd receiver with 91 info. I think that sometimes depending on the different makes and models the 2nd receiver can control the switch and will switch between the different sats when the 1st receiver is turned off. I'm not sure if I'm totally correct in this assumption but I believe that different makes and models act differently and this is the cause for the confusion on how the loop out feature works.

right on.,.,ok.,.,I just tested it with the 1st one off with the remote and the 2nd gets both hor/ver channels.,.,.,now since I only have 91w I can't test with multi LNB's.,.,but I will post results when I mount another dish.,.,looks like a clear day today.

**fossil112** · January 2nd, 2009

well dang...this is all great info, but it sounds like further testing is required to determine how these work (hopefully different from manufacturer to manufacturer, rather than model by model). It'd be really useful to test (2) receivers of the same man/mod to really nail down the prognosis. At least that way we'd have a controlled setting.

**creativegenius** · January 2nd, 2009

I would suggest you re-read the above info to make sure you have a clear understanding of the answers you've been provided with ahead of embarking on a dish raising project.

Start with the CW data sheet.

Creative Genius

**deanluna** · January 2nd, 2009

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Originally Posted by creativegenius

If the nfusion is off, how do you intend to power the LNB feeding the nfusion?

If the nfusion is on 110 when you power off the CW unit, the CW unit can watch 110.

If the CW unit is powered up while 110 is being viewed, then you lose half of the channel choices on the CW thanks to horizontal and vertical polarity. 119 can not be viewed if the nfusion is on 110 period. Switch the nfusion to 119 then the CW gets 119.

Creative Genius

how can you watch the CW unit if it's off?.,.,.,.,.,ps I've mounted about 100 dishes now.,.,it'll be no prob.,.,I've been wanting to test DN here for a while anyway.

**creativegenius** · January 2nd, 2009

Just wanted to save you the work of throwing up another dish ... let us know how you make out.

Creative Genius