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June 20th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
Great post. Thanks for the detail.....need to have patience, sit down and relax until the new fix is released
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June 20th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
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June 20th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
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Originally Posted by carlos60
For all who may be confused about N3
c/p from a friend
N3 is NOT a new satellite,it is also NOT a new channel or a new receiver. N.A.G.R.A 3, aka N3, is a new encryption route the providers are switching to in order to combat signal piracy. Bev is already fully implemented and is currently non watchable except via IKS (without PPV and XXX). Dish has just recently begun implementation..And no matter what anyone says, what you read anywhere else or what your friend's brother in laws sisters monkey says:
There is NO FIX for N3 as of yet
DO NOT be fooled by tempting adds and forum subscriptions of any sort..trust only what you read here, we let you know what you need to know
Except for old timers, most of you have never seen a nag switch.
There is no need to keep posting (I lost channel xxx, how do I get it back?
We all know the providers are switching to nag3. You will lose more & more channels until they are all gone. You will get scrambled channels, sound but no video, etc. All that is to be expected during a switch, there is nothing you can do about it except making sure the channel loss is not on your end.
As time goes on, rumors will surface like you have never seen. You will also see many scams.
Example:
XXX site has the fix & is going to a pay site..
N3 was hacked by a monkey in China, he has the hack for sale, we need money..
The monkey opened a private site , only $500.98 to join..
Were working on a fix.
We almost have the fix, we just need to tweak it, but ran out of money..
Private site, fix will be released next week...
X has bought the fix...
XX doesn't want to pay for the fix..
Your receiver won't work for N3, buy this one...
Keys will work...
My friend's uncle"s sisters, cousin has the fix, all channels wide open...
I think you get my drift...
Keep your old receivers,we don't know what will work & what won't. If you have to have a new unit, buy a $100 one until this is over..
Abadss has a very experienced staff, the seniors have been thru these changes from the F card to N1, N2 & now N3.
We know where to look for bins & info, We have enough experience to know fact from rumors & scams.
Let us do our jobs & you will see facts on Abadss, not rumors.
If you see posts about N3, leave them where you find them, trust me, the staff seen those post before you did. If they were worth posting, the staff would have posted them.
The staff will be very busy, searching for info to keep you up to date. We will not have time to correct useless post by ppl who have no idea what they posted. These post will clutter up the site & the staff will not have the time to deal with them.
You all knew this was coming, you should have a back up.
Please, let the staff do their job & don't make things worse by posting crap you find on other sites.
All we can do now is ride it out, & watch for new developments..
61.5W Echo 3 - Working (TP 12399 migrated to N3)(Green Bay - Locals) (Spot Beam 11)
72.7W Echos 6 - All N3
77.0W Echo 8 - All N3
110.0W Echo 10,11 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream)
119.0W Echo 7 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream)
121.0W Echo 9 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream) (Linear Sat)
129.0W Echo 5 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream)
148.0W Echo 1 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream)
The concern on most people's hands seems to be whether their current FTA receiver unit will function on the new system. The answer is more than likely to be yes indeed it will. All that basically needs to be done is that some coding group needs to crack the keys of the current system, embed it into a new fix, and your box will be working again in no time. Rest assured, there will be a solution to the N3 issue in no time.
In the coming weeks, there will be a multitude of sat scams saying that they have the N3 fix and other $%#. Don't believe a word any one says. When the fix is released, it will be released here, so don't fall for any profit seeker's promises of wide open television.
Right now there's no definite answer but hopefully in the coming days there will be more discoveries taking place that will lead us closer and closer to the complete solution for the new system. We will do our best to keep you up to date!
Most of us are estimating some down time, how much? we don't know exactly..so please sit back, be patient and visit our forums often.
Thank`s carlos60 
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Carlos,Im held in contempt by the mods here because of my harshest toward the rookies,so be it. I can tell you that the 241 (G3) has been dumped by a number of groups and individuals who are now working on piecing together the unwanted threads on the floor of the thread manufacture which can lead to massive stress and anxiety beyond most peoples endurance. Can emulation be accomplished for the existing irds,yes because the provider is locked into his oblesete hardware limiting the variables or choices they make,uplinking info to the dinosaur is futile. Hint,who is not selling a dongle.I may have more information by the end of next week.
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June 21st, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
great post carlos
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June 22nd, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
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June 24th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
thanks for the info
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June 24th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
Thanks for all the good info good job.
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June 25th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlos60
For all who may be confused about N3
c/p from a friend
N3 is NOT a new satellite,it is also NOT a new channel or a new receiver. N.A.G.R.A 3, aka N3, is a new encryption route the providers are switching to in order to combat signal piracy. Bev is already fully implemented and is currently non watchable except via IKS (without PPV and XXX). Dish has just recently begun implementation..And no matter what anyone says, what you read anywhere else or what your friend's brother in laws sisters monkey says:
There is NO FIX for N3 as of yet
DO NOT be fooled by tempting adds and forum subscriptions of any sort..trust only what you read here, we let you know what you need to know
Except for old timers, most of you have never seen a nag switch.
There is no need to keep posting (I lost channel xxx, how do I get it back?
We all know the providers are switching to nag3. You will lose more & more channels until they are all gone. You will get scrambled channels, sound but no video, etc. All that is to be expected during a switch, there is nothing you can do about it except making sure the channel loss is not on your end.
As time goes on, rumors will surface like you have never seen. You will also see many scams.
Example:
XXX site has the fix & is going to a pay site..
N3 was hacked by a monkey in China, he has the hack for sale, we need money..
The monkey opened a private site , only $500.98 to join..
Were working on a fix.
We almost have the fix, we just need to tweak it, but ran out of money..
Private site, fix will be released next week...
X has bought the fix...
XX doesn't want to pay for the fix..
Your receiver won't work for N3, buy this one...
Keys will work...
My friend's uncle"s sisters, cousin has the fix, all channels wide open...
I think you get my drift...
Keep your old receivers,we don't know what will work & what won't. If you have to have a new unit, buy a $100 one until this is over..
Abadss has a very experienced staff, the seniors have been thru these changes from the F card to N1, N2 & now N3.
We know where to look for bins & info, We have enough experience to know fact from rumors & scams.
Let us do our jobs & you will see facts on Abadss, not rumors.
If you see posts about N3, leave them where you find them, trust me, the staff seen those post before you did. If they were worth posting, the staff would have posted them.
The staff will be very busy, searching for info to keep you up to date. We will not have time to correct useless post by ppl who have no idea what they posted. These post will clutter up the site & the staff will not have the time to deal with them.
You all knew this was coming, you should have a back up.
Please, let the staff do their job & don't make things worse by posting crap you find on other sites.
All we can do now is ride it out, & watch for new developments..
61.5W Echo 3 - Working (TP 12399 migrated to N3)(Green Bay - Locals) (Spot Beam 11)
72.7W Echos 6 - All N3
77.0W Echo 8 - All N3
110.0W Echo 10,11 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream)
119.0W Echo 7 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream)
121.0W Echo 9 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream) (Linear Sat)
129.0W Echo 5 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream)
148.0W Echo 1 - Working (N2 & 3 in the stream)
The concern on most people's hands seems to be whether their current FTA receiver unit will function on the new system. The answer is more than likely to be yes indeed it will. All that basically needs to be done is that some coding group needs to crack the keys of the current system, embed it into a new fix, and your box will be working again in no time. Rest assured, there will be a solution to the N3 issue in no time.
In the coming weeks, there will be a multitude of sat scams saying that they have the N3 fix and other $%#. Don't believe a word any one says. When the fix is released, it will be released here, so don't fall for any profit seeker's promises of wide open television.
Right now there's no definite answer but hopefully in the coming days there will be more discoveries taking place that will lead us closer and closer to the complete solution for the new system. We will do our best to keep you up to date!
Most of us are estimating some down time, how much? we don't know exactly..so please sit back, be patient and visit our forums often.
Thank`s carlos60 
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krazy_yet_funny26@hotmail.com is my email. How do I contribute money so we can get 119 and 110 going? It seems like all the channels are down. Im mostly interested in sports and movies. Please let me know I just joined this site tonight to find out how to contribute. Please let me know. Thank you.
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September 27th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
Thankyou for the facts
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September 27th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
I do not believe n3 is a totally new encryption. Kudelsky and company did not have the time or resourses(money) to write a new encryption. He was in big trouble when the europians cracked N2 as he had been paid millions of dollars for the N2. The satellite providers using N2 were not happy. He then reworked N2 as much as he could(map 54) for the satellite company's to stop pirating . When this did not work he reworked N2 again, but the new N2, now called N3 required new cards to deal with his new routines. This was a huge cost to sat providers. The bottum line is that it is still N2 with changes. I believe it will be eventually cracked again and at that point the providers will look to a new encryption process which will be very expensive for them. This is just my opinion.
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September 28th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
Amen to this post!This is exactly what the Doctor prescribed, a good sound clear information stating what it's all about. Rookies like me Love it. Thanks a million times Carlos60!!! keep up the good work.
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September 28th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
For a Newbie with no hardware yet, what is the status of FTA today? Have many DN moved to N3 in the past 4 months? Are IKS vendors working around N3 well? If IKS is working why is there no N3 fix? Is this not a good time to build a FTA system while things remain unsettled?
John
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September 29th, 2009
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Re: For all who may be confused about N3
Thanks for the useful info.
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