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Old June 18th, 2009   #1 (permalink)
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Difference between Coders & Hackers.

Saw this somewhere and thought I'd share it:

This is a great info about coders and hackers that explain the difference between them.
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Just wanted to clear something up..... a whole lot of folks here are confusing the two.... now that we are almost completely n3 people are begging the coders to get going.... here are the facts...

- A coder does not crack N3... that takes a hacker... until n3 is hacked the coders can do nothing but wait like you and I...

- Hackers get paid in large sums of money one time to provide a hack to encryption like n1, n2 and n3... coders are on salary to write codes whenever ecms come out....


- Hackers use computers and acid and electron microscopes... coders use keyboards and copious amounts of coffee.....

- IKS does not involve coders... it involves computer specialists who hook up a network to share a card using a server.... coders do, however, get involved in writing bin files for the boxes that include IKS capability....

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Re: Difference between Coders & Hackers.

clean pure and simple no need for farther explaining neede thanks bud
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A real good easy definition!!!
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Re: Difference between Coders & Hackers.

Until there is a N3 card hack there will be no FTA. FTA runs a soft cam, without it no FTA. R&D on the N3 will take big money and the right people. If you could dump a N3 card you would be rich. Don't mean to sound so negative, but those are the facts.
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and dont think for one minute the money aint being counted but ive hears so many rumors about the n3 cards that there is built in jel coat that will destroy the card when being tampered with i read that from a copy paste here awhile back and it make since after 3 failures so far but if iks is card sharing i wish they would share the ppvs on 91 lol
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Re: Difference between Coders & Hackers.

Great video on Youtube about the dude who broke open the directv card, shows his lab and some of the methods.
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Re: Difference between Coders & Hackers.

Chris T. was formally known as BigGun in the battery card days (Dave). He got busted by Dave and went to work for them. Charlie was complaining to Dave that they need to do something about the security. No one had ever broken a Charlie card. Dave took Chris to there Israel lab where he broke the first Charlie card. It was then posted on the internet for free. Chris was fired from Dave and went to Cal. where he has his on lab and does nothing but smart cards. He was on TV a while back showing his lab and what he could do. If anyone can hack the N3 card it will be Chris T. I am sure he has already been contacted by the powers that be in FTA.
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Re: Difference between Coders & Hackers.

thanks for the info buddy.., this should help people gripe to the right people..,.,lol
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