SV Announcement on Freezing - ABA DSS

**cisco123** · July 9th, 2009

Channel freezing is due to the following:

The server that was originally put in to place has a huge server load as of right now. Currently we are trying to figure out the issue and get it straightened out , there is a constant connection of around 20,000 active IP addresses/serial numbers-IHUB connections. Every time a user changes channels it is sending a request to the server which causes the server to lag and the server thinks that another active connection has been made,even when it hasn't. So instead of 1 active connection, it basically turns in to an average of 4 max active connections per ip/serial (mainly when a user changes channels to one that isn't added yet).So basically with 20,000 users connected, the server is tricked in to Thinking that there are 80,000 active connection. This is the cause of the server lag and freezing. So this is the issue at hand and is being looked in to and fixed.

**snakebite** · July 9th, 2009

thanks for the update cisco.

**deanluna** · July 9th, 2009

this will make SV users happy.,.,at least now they have diagnosed the problem and can work on fixing it.

**Itaintrite** · July 9th, 2009

Yup, it's always good to stay in touch with your user base.

**mountaineer** · July 9th, 2009

So,"there is a constant connection of around 20,000 active IP addresses/serial numbers-IHUB connections."
??????????????? sounds like it leaves a path straight to your door.

**swae** · July 9th, 2009

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Originally Posted by mountaineer

So,"there is a constant connection of around 20,000 active IP addresses/serial numbers-IHUB connections."
??????????????? sounds like it leaves a path straight to your door.

Anyone else want to comment? Kinda scary.

**mountaineer** · July 9th, 2009

It doesn't say active users, it says ip addresses, and the serial # of the ihub. So, your ip addy leads dish to the door, and your Ihub serial # is the smoking gun. I don't study law, but it pretty much sounds like "case closed".

**zekester** · July 10th, 2009

I use my Ihub exclusively for MP3, Games, and Photo downloads. What else is it good for??

bloodmc · July 10th, 2009

question is...where is the server located...is it in a country that charlie can easily subpoena its contents and find out what it is sending out...and to whom...anyway like zekester said what's so scary about games and photo downloads?

**peggy13** · July 10th, 2009

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Originally Posted by cisco123

Channel freezing is due to the following:

The server that was originally put in to place has a huge server load as of right now. Currently we are trying to figure out the issue and get it straightened out , there is a constant connection of around 20,000 active IP addresses/serial numbers-IHUB connections. Every time a user changes channels it is sending a request to the server which causes the server to lag and the server thinks that another active connection has been made,even when it hasn't. So instead of 1 active connection, it basically turns in to an average of 4 max active connections per ip/serial (mainly when a user changes channels to one that isn't added yet).So basically with 20,000 users connected, the server is tricked in to Thinking that there are 80,000 active connection. This is the cause of the server lag and freezing. So this is the issue at hand and is being looked in to and fixed.

LOL, I guess that's why I've heard that it works so well from midnight on....thanks Cisco for keeping everyone informed.

**RICKSBEACH** · July 10th, 2009

SV still rocks

**mandydish** · July 10th, 2009

I hope they can fix it and add my locals and ppv

,I miss miami locals

**marty napier** · July 10th, 2009

thinks for the info cisco

**bill of oz** · July 10th, 2009

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Originally Posted by bloodmc

question is...where is the server located...is it in a country that charlie can easily subpoena its contents and find out what it is sending out...and to whom...anyway like zekester said what's so scary about games and photo downloads?

it doesnt matter where its located.....if there is a court order to turn over the server, then that court order stands no matter what country its in.....

also if sonicview was ever busted they would probably be given the option of paying a MUCH lesser charge if they turned over the server with all its current contents.....

do you think sonicview would refuse to pay a lesser charge and pay more money to save the personal information of a bunch of strangers?......think again.....

there would then be immediate court papers sent out to everybodys IP that has been logged....you should expect a fine of $4,000-$6,000.....case closed.....

IKS is serious crap.....and people should seriously consider the consequences of their actions after the hammer falls.....

i dont think people are taking this seriously enough.....

**SatelliteJunkie** · July 10th, 2009

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Originally Posted by mountaineer

It doesn't say active users, it says ip addresses, and the serial # of the ihub. So, your ip addy leads dish to the door, and your Ihub serial # is the smoking gun. I don't study law, but it pretty much sounds like "case closed".

I did read about Charlie making a list of isp addresses linked to iks users.
And the CNX boys are not supporting the concept of iHub for that reason...even though there Nano uses it.
They claim you may not have a problem today...but someday you might get a visit or a fine.
I'm not sure what to think about it?

**SatelliteJunkie** · July 10th, 2009

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Originally Posted by bill of oz

it doesnt matter where its located.....if there is a court order to turn over the server, then that court order stands no matter what country its in.....

also if sonicview was ever busted they would probably be given the option of paying a MUCH lesser charge if they turned over the server with all its current contents.....

do you think sonicview would refuse to pay a lesser charge and pay more money to save the personal information of a bunch of strangers?......think again.....

there would then be immediate court papers sent out to everybodys IP that has been logged....you should expect a fine of $4,000-$6,000.....case closed.....

IKS is serious crap.....and people should seriously consider the consequences of their actions after the hammer falls.....

i dont think people are taking this seriously enough.....

What do you think about a proxy server?
Would that be safe?
And what about a WiFi...hack the neighbors server & really beat the trail?

**lonster** · July 10th, 2009

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Originally Posted by SatelliteJunkie

What do you think about a proxy server?
Would that be safe?
And what about a WiFi...hack the neighbors server & really beat the trail?

There are also wi-fi antenna's that will allow a user to tap into a "free public hotspot" like a cafe, hotel or library. All completely free and legal to use.

A proxy definitely makes it harder to get to the end of the trail.

Just because an ethernet cable is hooked up to an stb does not mean it is directly connected to the physical location of the user.

SB0 · July 10th, 2009

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Originally Posted by bloodmc

question is...where is the server located...is it in a country that charlie can easily subpoena its contents and find out what it is sending out...and to whom...anyway like zekester said what's so scary about games and photo downloads?

Hi all, my understanding of IKS is that what channel you are watching would also be sent to the server. The server needs to know the channel in order to send the correct key. Provided this is true then the server would contain the IP, serial, MAC and the channel list for all the users. The claim that you use the hub for mp3 downloads and games would not get far. Even if you use a proxy or a hacked WIFI the serial and the MAC would still come back to you.Now that is scary! Now to add even more concern, does anybody know for sure who is running the server? Even if it is secure what is keeping charlie from buying an IKS receiver and reverse engineer the network connection to the server and set one up themselves. All they have to do is start posting on some of the forums something like: New server, all channels up - go to IP Something to think about, SB0

**creativegenius** · July 10th, 2009

Get a router that supports VPN (Virtual Private Networking) that might be something worth looking in to for anyone considering IKS.

Creative Genius

**Tbass** · July 10th, 2009

Ok guys and gals now all this talk is making me nervous