Nagra 3 is still strong and without opening in Europe - ABA DSS

**carlos60** · December 16th, 2007

Nagra 3 is still strong and without opening in Europe
The German chain "Premiere" also is transferred to Nagravisión 3.

For that they still doubt the "darkness" of the pirate tv in Europe there are more news of Nagra 3 and the success that apparently it has had.

It seems that Nagra 3 is spending all the tests of the hacker and coders that do not find solutions for the time being, and Nagra 3 starts being adopted as other chains and providers of television route satellite in Europe.The chain deprived by satellite Premiere also happens to Nagra 3 (earlier it was using Betacrypt and then Nagra 2), and after this one the Pole Cyfrowy Polsat will continue the same way. Nagra 3 is demonstrating to be quite solid, since it takes almost two years working in the Portuguese Tv Cabo without being hacked, in spite of the rumours that they indicate the opposite, and from December 4 Bonus works in the Digital system with the same result, there is no solution for the time being.
And is it necessary to doubt, if it takes almost two years and the Nagra 3 does not open to itself in TV End, For which to believe the rumours now of that they are on the verge of doing it?. Anyway, two years it is a lot of time, so that the piracy could survive with teams that do not sell waiting in stores and also waiting for a miracle of a coder to which it would be necessary to pay to him, perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars for the hack, if it achieves it.
Digitalis, which from beginnings of this December only uses the new system of encryption of the Swiss company of Kuldelsky, has left to "dark" the channels that could be seen of fraudulent form with Nagra 2.
After the process realized in two platforms route satellite "Iberian", now it touches him the shift to the German Premiere, in fact, who is already realizing for some weeks tests under the new format of Nagravisión 3. The Pole Cyfrowy Polsat will follow Premiere also.
For the time being they are only rumours those that they say that Nagra3 it is already opened. This way it is like he promises to be in diversity of Forums of Europe, specializing in the topic. After the tests realized with the new review of Nagra, the tests have already realized with the Channel Sport TV 1 and 2. The Cardsharing is being implemented and supported by those Recipients of Satellite with connection Ethernet, nevertheless also it is possible to realize it by means of Captured in the PC.
These tests that are contributed from Europe, demonstrate fully that Nagravision 3 has not been broken, that it is seen for cardsharing and not for no type of emulation that does not exist for the time being.
The struggle against the piracy in the United States and Canada, it might win at once and for all (if Nagra 3 continues without breaking) with a change of cards of massive form, which was initiated by TV End in Europe and now by Digital Bonus and the German platform Premiere.
The tests realized by Polsat and now Premiere, give to Kudelski a supremacy with Nagra 3, facing the imminent future that rethinks now. If everything is fine, André Kudelski might "clean" his disastrous image because of the mistake of Nagra 2, y to have a new strong position, opposite to proposed business piece of news of other satellite providers.
The question is not if the system will be implemented in USA, because it will be like that with safety. The question is when it will be implemented.

goatbox · 3 Weeks Ago

hi thanks for info on niagra3

raen_rfm · 3 Weeks Ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos60

Nagra 3 is still strong and without opening in Europe
The German chain "Premiere" also is transferred to Nagravisión 3.

For that they still doubt the "darkness" of the pirate tv in Europe there are more news of Nagra 3 and the success that apparently it has had.

It seems that Nagra 3 is spending all the tests of the hacker and coders that do not find solutions for the time being, and Nagra 3 starts being adopted as other chains and providers of television route satellite in Europe.The chain deprived by satellite Premiere also happens to Nagra 3 (earlier it was using Betacrypt and then Nagra 2), and after this one the Pole Cyfrowy Polsat will continue the same way. Nagra 3 is demonstrating to be quite solid, since it takes almost two years working in the Portuguese Tv Cabo without being hacked, in spite of the rumours that they indicate the opposite, and from December 4 Bonus works in the Digital system with the same result, there is no solution for the time being.
And is it necessary to doubt, if it takes almost two years and the Nagra 3 does not open to itself in TV End, For which to believe the rumours now of that they are on the verge of doing it?. Anyway, two years it is a lot of time, so that the piracy could survive with teams that do not sell waiting in stores and also waiting for a miracle of a coder to which it would be necessary to pay to him, perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars for the hack, if it achieves it.
Digitalis, which from beginnings of this December only uses the new system of encryption of the Swiss company of Kuldelsky, has left to "dark" the channels that could be seen of fraudulent form with Nagra 2.
After the process realized in two platforms route satellite "Iberian", now it touches him the shift to the German Premiere, in fact, who is already realizing for some weeks tests under the new format of Nagravisión 3. The Pole Cyfrowy Polsat will follow Premiere also.
For the time being they are only rumours those that they say that Nagra3 it is already opened. This way it is like he promises to be in diversity of Forums of Europe, specializing in the topic. After the tests realized with the new review of Nagra, the tests have already realized with the Channel Sport TV 1 and 2. The Cardsharing is being implemented and supported by those Recipients of Satellite with connection Ethernet, nevertheless also it is possible to realize it by means of Captured in the PC.
These tests that are contributed from Europe, demonstrate fully that Nagravision 3 has not been broken, that it is seen for cardsharing and not for no type of emulation that does not exist for the time being.
The struggle against the piracy in the United States and Canada, it might win at once and for all (if Nagra 3 continues without breaking) with a change of cards of massive form, which was initiated by TV End in Europe and now by Digital Bonus and the German platform Premiere.
The tests realized by Polsat and now Premiere, give to Kudelski a supremacy with Nagra 3, facing the imminent future that rethinks now. If everything is fine, André Kudelski might "clean" his disastrous image because of the mistake of Nagra 2, y to have a new strong position, opposite to proposed business piece of news of other satellite providers.
The question is not if the system will be implemented in USA, because it will be like that with safety. The question is when it will be implemented.

Hate to say it but this is a pretty old message. I've seen it elsewhere months ago.

Gimpy13 · 3 Weeks Ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by raen_rfm

Hate to say it but this is a pretty old message. I've seen it elsewhere months ago.

you're right, this is old...Dec 15th, 2007 OLD rofl

again to those affected by N3, and looming around for BINS:

"Wait and See"

raen_rfm · 3 Weeks Ago

Well, history seems to suggest that N3 will also fall as I'm sure it isn't a radical enough change from N2 to really thwart the efforts of the coders, after all money is a powerful motivator. If your livelyhood relied on cracking this code you could be sure that you'd throw everything you got at the problem, and to be sure there are some pretty brilliant guys working on it. Until quantum computing becomes an economical reality (20+ years at least) there will never be any truly uncrackable encryption system and most likely that type of system will only be available to governments and military when it does become a reality.

kohna · 2 Weeks Ago

I realise this thread is getting on a bit and perhaps nobody will read, but I'm curious about the uptake of Nagra3 in Europe.
If you check out www.kingofsat.net/packages.php you'll find quite a helpful looking list of sat packages, where they are and what they give you including the encryption type.
Seems the likes of Prem; Cabo and Polsat are all N3 users but is this source reliable?
It also, obviously, has no sign of Virgin (I know that's actually cable, it's still sort of relevant). I understood they were going to N3 but heard whispers recently they can't afford to go there now - Anybody know anything about that?

Cheers for any input

**eclipsemoon** · 2 Weeks Ago

Well folks, this was the same thing said when nag 2 was hitting, so do not give up hope yet. enjoy what we have while we got it.