News on the Map EMU from Viewsat 01/15/08 - ABA DSS

**grasshopper** · January 16th, 2008

C/P from The_Dss_Guy

Well, the news is we NOW Have a completed Map emulator. The bad news is, in its current form, it will only run on a unicode based pc. The good news is that with this finished emu to run tests on, we can get specific timer values, so they can be written into C for patching each new ECM. While this isn't nearly as good as having every possible combination already written in C, it does give the coders a much better way of getting fixes written properly and quickly. In other words, Providers won't be able to blind side us anymore. Whatever they throw at us can now be fed into the emulator to test and get proper values from map. No more brute forcing necessary The current emu is huge and very resource hungry. While it could be written into certain bins, a 200 mghz. processor would only be able to render proper answers at about 1/10 the needed speed. As more & more routines are thrown our way, more & more patches will be added until we basically will have an emu running in the bins. This will take a bit more time and each bin will of course improve as providers show us their hand. This may not be the "Good News" everyone has been expecting, but it's a very positive step towards that end. This is no small task the coders have undertaken. I don't want to give false predictions about how soon we may have a more permanent lasting fix, but it is in the works, and will require many man hrs from various contributors to finish. Providers have stepped up the game for sure, but coders now have something to work with, so that puts us one up for whatever is headed our way.
Relax, the game is far from over, but as I said earlier, it is certainly getting interesting.
Those companies that don't have the juice to keep up will be obvious in very short order. I will say this, Sv & Viewsat owners have nothing to worry about.. As usual stay tuned right here for the best help and latest news concerning our ever growing ever popular hobby..

GH

**Itaintrite** · January 16th, 2008

I wouldn't exactly consider The_DSS_Guy "ViewSat". He's a businessman first and foremost. His ulterior motive is always to promote sales. And what does he sell? SV/VS

Take the news with a grain of salt and hope for the best.

**Apocalypse_67** · January 16th, 2008

IF all chips fall into place as reported, then this will definitely be a reason to get excited.

**Laser2008** · January 16th, 2008

Said the same crap in december...BS

coxiemoto · January 16th, 2008

new bev fix already out , and got mine updated, working great for vspro

**fishsmacker** · January 16th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by grasshopper

C/P from The_Dss_Guy

Well, the news is we NOW Have a completed Map emulator. The bad news is, in its current form, it will only run on a unicode based pc. The good news is that with this finished emu to run tests on, we can get specific timer values, so they can be written into C for patching each new ECM. While this isn't nearly as good as having every possible combination already written in C, it does give the coders a much better way of getting fixes written properly and quickly. In other words, Providers won't be able to blind side us anymore. Whatever they throw at us can now be fed into the emulator to test and get proper values from map. No more brute forcing necessary The current emu is huge and very resource hungry. While it could be written into certain bins, a 200 mghz. processor would only be able to render proper answers at about 1/10 the needed speed. As more & more routines are thrown our way, more & more patches will be added until we basically will have an emu running in the bins. This will take a bit more time and each bin will of course improve as providers show us their hand. This may not be the "Good News" everyone has been expecting, but it's a very positive step towards that end. This is no small task the coders have undertaken. I don't want to give false predictions about how soon we may have a more permanent lasting fix, but it is in the works, and will require many man hrs from various contributors to finish. Providers have stepped up the game for sure, but coders now have something to work with, so that puts us one up for whatever is headed our way.
Relax, the game is far from over, but as I said earlier, it is certainly getting interesting.
Those companies that don't have the juice to keep up will be obvious in very short order. I will say this, Sv & Viewsat owners have nothing to worry about.. As usual stay tuned right here for the best help and latest news concerning our ever growing ever popular hobby..

GH

Grasshopper your the s**t man thanks a million,I have respect for you, always there and always on it like a pit bull. Later on man.

sacoro · January 16th, 2008

i would like to say ditto to fishsmackers comment gh u the man !!!

**just4ufolks** · January 16th, 2008

Surely something to look forward to and certainly be great to have a stable fix and not worry on daily basis..it's been a rough ride for the past few weks/months for sure..thans for the feedback "GH"...counting on you folks...

Dennisboy39 · January 16th, 2008

As always GH, when I see your handle, I know I am getting the down low. Thanks for the being there.

**ricknsusan** · January 16th, 2008

thanks for the info G.H.

**grasshopper** · January 16th, 2008

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Originally Posted by Laser2008

Said the same crap in december...BS

I do beleive that they're all ready have the full EMU fix... Black list, CW, Neosat, Coolsat are also claimed it. Just a matter of time before they release it, let's wait and see who comes out with the full EMU fix first. Or maybe BlackBird is the first one that release this time

GH

**Itaintrite** · January 16th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by grasshopper

I do beleive that they're all ready have the full EMU fix... Black list, CW, Neosat, Coolsat are also claimed it. Just a matter of time before they release it, let's wait and see who comes out with the full EMU fix first. Or maybe BlackBird is the first one that release this time

GH

Heh, I find it more reassuring when you say it. At least you're more neutral than most coders/"sales reps" from the team.

You mentioned CW... do you have a link for that?

Cheers.

**grasshopper** · January 16th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itaintrite

You mentioned CW... do you have a link for that?

Cheers.

Nope, I just can't leak any info. hehehe... my word is not good enough for you

**Itaintrite** · January 16th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by grasshopper

Nope, I just can't leak any info. hehehe... my word is not good enough for you

Well, if you said you've heard it, then I believe you. But I was just curious. Wanted to see exactly what they said, and maybe read between the lines lol

**slowboy** · January 16th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itaintrite

I wouldn't exactly consider The_DSS_Guy "ViewSat". He's a businessman first and foremost. His ulterior motive is always to promote sales. And what does he sell? SV/VS

Take the news with a grain of salt and hope for the best.

YOU STUCK YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH

**Itaintrite** · January 16th, 2008

How did I do that?

**coorslightly** · January 16th, 2008

this is amazing news . the entire fta community will benefit. patience pays off eventually.

**silver fox 8** · January 17th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by grasshopper

I do beleive that they're all ready have the full EMU fix... Black list, CW, Neosat, Coolsat are also claimed it. Just a matter of time before they release it, let's wait and see who comes out with the full EMU fix first. Or maybe BlackBird is the first one that release this time

GH

viewsat is the smartest an best well run bissness out their an they have no reason not to stay their an a million an one to stay their they mite not not have the first fix but they will have the first long term fix. for me i will stay with viewsat for ever unless i see reason to do otherwise.

**mandydish** · January 17th, 2008

great info GH, that's music to my ears, keep up the good work.

**just4ufolks** · January 17th, 2008

That's an encouraging statement and reassurace from the last update in December/
When you have a project with such wide imlications it sure take lots of effort and resources to make it work and do it right the first time..there is no margin of error in this field either it works or it does not work?
To add to the complexity there have been this numrious up again down again episodes that sure added some more challenges to address this FULL FIX ISSUE ..BUT bottom line is it's on it's way regardless who is out FIRST...reliability and stability are the issues..
"GH" ur word is good enough and we patiently wait for that BREAKROUGH...FIX - hopefully sooner than later...stay here for all ur updates folks...ppl helpin ppl..