Elite 360 problem - ABA DSS

briarrabbitt · July 24th, 2008

I just switched from a cs7000 to the svElite. I noticed that some of my channels are scrambled. It seems to be random blocks of channels on different transponders. Mostly around the ppv channels.

Here's an example:

502 Ok
503 Scrambled
504 Scrambled
505 Ok
506 Scrambled
507 Scrambled
etc...
520 Ok
521 Ok
etc...

This is where it gets weird. When I get to a scrambled channel if I go into the menu > dish settings and exit, the channel comes up!!!!! So do all the other "blocks" of scrambled channels. If I change to a channel that was already working and go back (Like 502 then back to 503) they're all scrambled again and I have to do it all over again!!!!!!!!!! Menu > dish settings > exit.

I've tried a factory reset and rescan but still no change. Anyone have any ideas or having this same problem?

**bonusjay** · July 24th, 2008

one sat is no there or set up on one is not right

**jayjay1972** · July 24th, 2008

it seems that your having problems between both sats. 502 is echo 7, 503 & 504 is echo 8. Are you using any switches? have you checked for loose cables including the ones on the lnbs?

briarrabbitt · July 24th, 2008

It's definitely there. When I go to the menu > dish settings and exit it comes in. If it wasn't there then it shouldn't come in at all.

Here are my settings:

Tuner 1
Satellite EchoStar 8,X 110W
Connection Separate
LNB Type OCS-DP
LNB Freq 11250
22Khz Off
LNB Power On
Transponder 12224
Search Opt All
Ntwk Search On
Diseqc Port 2
Motor Disable
Legacy sw Off

Tuner 1
Satellite EchoStar 7 119W
Connection Separate
LNB Type OCS-DP
LNB Freq 11250
22Khz Off
LNB Power On
Transponder 12224
Search Opt All
Ntwk Search On
Diseqc Port 1
Legacy SW Off

briarrabbitt · July 24th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay1972

it seems that your having problems between both sats. 502 is echo 7, 503 & 504 is echo 8. Are you using any switches? have you checked for loose cables including the ones on the lnbs?

I am using a cheetah switch to combine 110,119 & 91. All was fine with my cs7000. Good signal, good quality and all channels came in fine. Although I am planning on removing it and connecting a dp plus twin lnb so I can run two lines to my stb. I'm doing that Saturday morning when the attic is not so hot. I'll report back with my findings.

I sure hope that's all it is!

**jayjay1972** · July 24th, 2008

ok if your gonna use a dpplus lnb you dont need to run 2 cables into your house. All you have to do is pick up a dp seperator and run 1 cable to the switch (behind the reciever) and 2 cables out to the box. In the settings you will change the lnb type to seperator adjust all your other settings and scan both tuners. If you need further help let me know

**jayjay1972** · July 24th, 2008

seperator

**SystemDude** · July 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by briarrabbitt

When I get to a scrambled channel if I go into the menu > dish settings and exit, the channel comes up!!!!! So do all the other "blocks" of scrambled channels. If I change to a channel that was already working and go back (Like 502 then back to 503) they're all scrambled again and I have to do it all over again!!!!!!!!!! Menu > dish settings > exit.

My unit does something vaguely similar, but I assumed it was just a quirk associated with the autoroll or key software or something. Sometimes I can channel-switch up and down and a previously unavailable channel pops in. Or switch to the other tuner. Tonight I just let it sit on a "dead" channel for maybe ten minutes and it popped in.

I have noticed also that many times the message "no signal" comes up on a channel on a transponder frequency that I know darned well is alive and kicking. Here I presumed that it was really trying to tell me that it could not decode (i.e. - "scrambled") but just got the status message wrong.

And (maybe this is related and maybe it's not) I have not been able to receive about half of the PBS channels for maybe a week or so. I'm pretty sure they were all there before. I kinda assumed (there I go again) that if the key worked for one DN group, it worked for all.

Life is a learning experience, but my head is hurting......

**SatelliteJunkie** · July 25th, 2008

I have similar troubles with both my Sonicviews 360 Elite & 4000.
But always seem to be able to work around it by channel jumping.

I have a problem with PPVs on the 360 Elite.
I get everything on 110 except the PPVs???

briarrabbitt · July 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay1972

ok if your gonna use a dpplus lnb you dont need to run 2 cables into your house. All you have to do is pick up a dp seperator

I want to run a second cable because I was told by a DN installer friend of mine that the plus needs both outputs occupied or there will be signal problems. Plus I don't have a separator but I do have lots of cable.

briarrabbitt · July 25th, 2008

SystemDude
Mine says "No Service or Scrambled" when I switch to it. The sigal meeter shows good signal. I let it sit for at least 20 min and it never came in.

This affects my recordings because I don't know if the channel is going to be "on" or not when it starts to record.

big frank · July 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by briarrabbitt

SystemDude
Mine says "No Service or Scrambled" when I switch to it. The sigal meeter shows good signal. I let it sit for at least 20 min and it never came in.

This affects my recordings because I don't know if the channel is going to be "on" or not when it starts to record.

Same thing here. It's agravating when you are trying to record and then find out the channel doesn't work.