trying to get VCR to work with Elite

[big frank]

So I have the VCR talking to the TV with a coax cable. And have the Elite talking to the TV with the RCA cables. Need to be able to record from the sat to the VCR. Can't figure out what to use cable wise to make it work.

I think I need to have video out from Elite to video in to VCR and then some audio the same way. Does that sound right? If so, what outputs on the Elite would I use. Tried a few buy couldn't make it happen.

[nuger]

Same problem, been trying to couple dvd recorder up & can't figure it out, every thing i try don't work, had a coolsat 6000 befor this & it was so simple cos it had coax to couple to but this is doing my head in!

[big frank]

Originally Posted by nuger

Same problem, been trying to couple dvd recorder up & can't figure it out, every thing i try don't work, had a coolsat 6000 befor this & it was so simple cos it had coax to couple to but this is doing my head in!

Hmmm, well I'll haqve to mess with it more when I have time. There should be a way to do it.

[SystemDude]

With the Elite not having an RF (coaxial) output, it changes things considerably. What saves it all is that the box has three apparently independent video outputs -- Component, Composite or CVBS, and s-video. All three can be used at the same time, and as an added bonus the video quality should be far superior to what you would get by using the antenna connection.

If you already have the Elite's Component outputs run to the TV, then you can run the CVBS (yellow jack) or s-video to the VCR -- or just choose whichever one is not already used. The only tricky bit comes about because there is only one set of audio outputs. You will need to purchase two RCA "Y-adapters" (with one male and two female jacks each) to allow the audio to be sent both to the TV and to the VCR.

Been using this setup myself and it works fine.

(hint hint -- if you have a DVD recorder or VCR/DVD recorder, this hookup also makes for a cheap 'n' dirty way to transfer PVR video to DVD without use of a computer!)

[big frank]

Originally Posted by SystemDude

With the Elite not having an RF (coaxial) output, it changes things considerably. What saves it all is that the box has three apparently independent video outputs -- Component, Composite or CVBS, and s-video. All three can be used at the same time, and as an added bonus the video quality should be far superior to what you would get by using the antenna connection.

If you already have the Elite's Component outputs run to the TV, then you can run the CVBS (yellow jack) or s-video to the VCR -- or just choose whichever one is not already used. The only tricky bit comes about because there is only one set of audio outputs. You will need to purchase two RCA "Y-adapters" (with one male and two female jacks each) to allow the audio to be sent both to the TV and to the VCR.

Been using this setup myself and it works fine.

(hint hint -- if you have a DVD recorder or VCR/DVD recorder, this hookup also makes for a cheap 'n' dirty way to transfer PVR video to DVD without use of a computer!)

I"m using the Component jacks (red/white/yellow) for the TV now. I tried an S-video cable (on the Elite), but I didn't get any audio. The book shows it needing s-video and the yellow top jack of the component jack to make it work on the TV. I had that setup, but still no audio. Tried video out from the TV to the VCR, no joy. tried a wire fromt he video out of the Elite to the VCR, no joy. I can get the VCR to play a tape on the TV by using a coax from VCR video out to the ant. in on the TV, but no matter what I do I can't get the VCR to record. I'm really only trying to record with it, I don't have to play it back, although that part is okay anyway.

The component jack that are marked Y, Pb, Pr...I see in the Elites manual that they can be connected to a tv, so they must be a vidoe out from the Elite like the red/yellow/white components.

Somehow, I need to get video out from the Elite, to go to the Video in to the VCR. The VCR only has component jacks marked video/audio IN and video/audio OUT, as well as coax in/out, which is no help. Any idea how I can make this happen?

[arboristman]

Originally Posted by big frank

I"m using the Component jacks (red/white/yellow) for the TV now. I tried an S-video cable (on the Elite), but I didn't get any audio.

Any idea how I can make this happen?

Originally Posted by SystemDude

With the Elite not having an RF (coaxial) output, it changes things considerably. What saves it all is that the box has three apparently independent video outputs -- Component, Composite or CVBS, and s-video. All three can be used at the same time, and as an added bonus the video quality should be far superior to what you would get by using the antenna connection.

If you already have the Elite's Component outputs run to the TV, then you can run the CVBS (yellow jack) or s-video to the VCR -- or just choose whichever one is not already used. The only tricky bit comes about because there is only one set of audio outputs. You will need to purchase two RCA "Y-adapters" (with one male and two female jacks each) to allow the audio to be sent both to the TV and to the VCR.

Been using this setup myself and it works fine.

(hint hint -- if you have a DVD recorder or VCR/DVD recorder, this hookup also makes for a cheap 'n' dirty way to transfer PVR video to DVD without use of a computer!)

highlighted the point you missed.

[big frank]

Originally Posted by arboristman

highlighted the point you missed.

Thanks. Though I read that, I guess it didn't sink in. I have some Y-adapters connecting the Elite and the VCR to the TV right now. I'll get another set. So I guess I only have to connect on the Elite the video out and one audio out and sent those two to the VCR?

[s2byus]

I would suggest to eventually have both audio lines connected, so that you do not loose STEREO.

AUDIO
The Y-adapters are needed ONLY for the two audio lines L and R coming out from the Elite to send the signals (one L and R pair) to The TV (L and R) inputs and (the other L and R pair) to the VCR (L and R) inputs.

VIDEO
For best Video picture, the component singlas (Y,Pb and Pr) from the Elite should be hooked to the TV component inputs (Y,Pb and Pr or Y,Cb and Cr). Note that the aiudio signals above, should be connected to the TV audio inputs associated to the specific TV input group (1, 2 .....) the Video signals belong to.

The CVBS composite Video Elite output (yellow jack above the L and R jacks) should be connected to the VCR composite video input. Alternatively the S-Video Elite output may be used if the VCR has an S-Video input.

VCR
The main thing - usually forgotten - to get the VCR recording with the singals comming from the Elite, is to select the appropriate AV (1, 2 .... ) input for the VCR with its remote ( hard to find that key - now :-), since normally - as default - it uses the RF (antenna or CATV) cable input.

[big frank]

Originally Posted by s2byus

I would suggest to eventually have both audio lines connected, so that you do not loose STEREO.

AUDIO
The Y-adapters are needed ONLY for the two audio lines L and R coming out from the Elite to send the signals (one L and R pair) to The TV (L and R) inputs and (the other L and R pair) to the VCR (L and R) inputs.

VIDEO
For best Video picture, the component singlas (Y,Pb and Pr) from the Elite should be hooked to the TV component inputs (Y,Pb and Pr or Y,Cb and Cr). Note that the aiudio signals above, should be connected to the TV audio inputs associated to the specific TV input group (1, 2 .....) the Video signals belong to.

The CVBS composite Video Elite output (yellow jack above the L and R jacks) should be connected to the VCR composite video input. Alternatively the S-Video Elite output may be used if the VCR has an S-Video input.

VCR
The main thing - usually forgotten - to get the VCR recording with the singals comming from the Elite, is to select the appropriate AV (1, 2 .... ) input for the VCR with its remote ( hard to find that key - now :-), since normally - as default - it uses the RF (antenna or CATV) cable input.

great info, thanks a bunch. I'll grab some Y adapters today. The VCR will play a tape to the TV, it just won't record, so I'm sure it's the video connection to the VCR. Will work on it later today. Thanks again...

[SystemDude]

This is all compounded somewhat by the fact that the markings on the rear of the Elite and Premier are somewhat confusing -- they make it look like the "component" connections have four leads because the yellow (composite) jack is grouped with them. In fact, the "component" outputs are exactly as s2byus has detailed (Y, Pb and Pr) and the yellow is the completely-independent composite (or what used to be called the plain old "video" output). If your TV does not have s-video or component (Y, Pb and Pr) inputs, then I suppose you could split the yellow connector and run it to both the TV and VCR, but there may be some loss of quality.