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April 17th, 2009
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nagra 4 (g4)
I read this on another fta site, can somebody verify this? I havent heard it anywhere else.
Good Read About N3 by Odd Thomas
(Update)
With the introduction of the newest encryption system from “The Kudelski Group” which devolved (Nagravision3) for DN and B3ll introduced their new encryption system last Nov 08’ the system seems to be secure at this time but the rumors seem none stop.
As of today the rumor mill still flows to all FTA Site’s, rumors about a new hack of NDS and Nagra3 encryption system seems to have some merit.
The potential of the hack Nagravision3 system will be a major blow to the ailing Swiss coding specialist Kudelski. This past week, made known a substantial gain in the first part of 2009. The Cost was mainly suffered by the company had to make codes cracked by television weather to recover. Even the loss of customers by the long-term free channels has to look at the losses to Kudelski. In the Netherlands using the digital television Canal Digital, Mediaguard and UPC (Nagravision3) the
encryption of Kudelski well as other products and services of the Swiss company Since yesterday monitors our editors increasingly rumors about the possible hack of the NDS Videoguard and Kudelski Nagravision3 codering system. In practice this could mean that the package of Sky Italia (Videoguard), the Spanish D (Nagravision3) and the German Premiere (Nagravision3) without paying any adjustments can be made visible.
The possible Nagravision3 hack is of a commercial nature. There will soon be a "Smart Card ijskrabber" on the market which brought more than 120 euro’s will cost. The force and any lasting effect of this Smart Card is totally uncertain, hence the pet name "ijskrabber”. Today come from Italy also becoming increasingly stubborn rumors that have never publicly hacked Videoguard encoding of the English NDS prey would have been cases of hackers. It talks about using an older model Nokia (Dbox) a (Dreambox) receiver via a smart card.
Direct Information:
With (RSA) and (IDEA) digital encryption standards equipment decided to raise NP. D + and a Premium Card N3 (After KARTENTAUSCH) It seems a (backdoor) has been found in the ROM180 Card using (D+) tools on Rom142 (TV Cabo) tool is really it is not a tool for (MOSC Cabo), that does a TV to him (Cabo ermölglicht tickets of MOSC) in all the free air channels (except PPV). The fact is that the new system of (N3) can be breathed, and now we are seeing testing done on (DVB-Cards) and some small hacks on (emulator’s boxes). This is ofcourse the first steps in a viable fix for all (stand-alone) "FTA" Boxes today.
Please note: I would stress again that no (0fficial Hack) has been released and it would still be some months before a workaround could be released for any (DTH) STB.
But yesterday, Mr. Charles Ergen (CEO) of DN "announced in a Memo to the (SI) department that he would be releasing the (G4) card for all PPV Movie, PPV Sports, and all PPV Porn Channels within the next few months for all (VIP) model MPEG4 boxes. I believe this is a calculated move to counter any and all (loopholes), and or (backdoors) that some (NDS) and (Kudelski Group) coders might have left into their older system Nagra1 and Nagra2 encryption systems that Nagra3 is based on. This is ofcourse circumvent all work hackers have done up to this time on Nagra3 systems to date, and will cause all the work done up to this point to be worthless. I personally believe this may have been his plan from the beginning and force hackers to stop work on the new system and to wait for
The release of Nagravision (G4) cards.
Sorry for the News but its all I have to offer.
Sorry to bust your bubble here but its NOT Nagra 3 encryption Charlie is going to use he is pulling all the stops out and going to NAGRA4 yeppers!! thats right Nagra4 encryption on all these PORNO channels. Sorry for the bad news guys but this has not even been seen outside the lab yet and their is no known hack!
Oh' Sorry forgot to mention that the new (G4) cards are only going to be issued to ppl with the (VIP) Receivers and substrictions to these Playboy channels, so anyone with a VIP receiver that is MPEG4 will get this cards.
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Re: nagra 4 (g4)
i have a vip reciver the only card i have is a g3 card its not nag4 its g3 bud u got things mixed up      ainkiller:
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Originally Posted by cakegetter
I read this on another fta site, can somebody verify this? I havent heard it anywhere else.
Good Read About N3 by Odd Thomas
(Update)
With the introduction of the newest encryption system from “The Kudelski Group” which devolved (Nagravision3) for DN and B3ll introduced their new encryption system last Nov 08’ the system seems to be secure at this time but the rumors seem none stop.
As of today the rumor mill still flows to all FTA Site’s, rumors about a new hack of NDS and Nagra3 encryption system seems to have some merit.
The potential of the hack Nagravision3 system will be a major blow to the ailing Swiss coding specialist Kudelski. This past week, made known a substantial gain in the first part of 2009. The Cost was mainly suffered by the company had to make codes cracked by television weather to recover. Even the loss of customers by the long-term free channels has to look at the losses to Kudelski. In the Netherlands using the digital television Canal Digital, Mediaguard and UPC (Nagravision3) the
encryption of Kudelski well as other products and services of the Swiss company Since yesterday monitors our editors increasingly rumors about the possible hack of the NDS Videoguard and Kudelski Nagravision3 codering system. In practice this could mean that the package of Sky Italia (Videoguard), the Spanish D (Nagravision3) and the German Premiere (Nagravision3) without paying any adjustments can be made visible.
The possible Nagravision3 hack is of a commercial nature. There will soon be a "Smart Card ijskrabber" on the market which brought more than 120 euro’s will cost. The force and any lasting effect of this Smart Card is totally uncertain, hence the pet name "ijskrabber”. Today come from Italy also becoming increasingly stubborn rumors that have never publicly hacked Videoguard encoding of the English NDS prey would have been cases of hackers. It talks about using an older model Nokia (Dbox) a (Dreambox) receiver via a smart card.
Direct Information:
With (RSA) and (IDEA) digital encryption standards equipment decided to raise NP. D + and a Premium Card N3 (After KARTENTAUSCH) It seems a (backdoor) has been found in the ROM180 Card using (D+) tools on Rom142 (TV Cabo) tool is really it is not a tool for (MOSC Cabo), that does a TV to him (Cabo ermölglicht tickets of MOSC) in all the free air channels (except PPV). The fact is that the new system of (N3) can be breathed, and now we are seeing testing done on (DVB-Cards) and some small hacks on (emulator’s boxes). This is ofcourse the first steps in a viable fix for all (stand-alone) "FTA" Boxes today.
Please note: I would stress again that no (0fficial Hack) has been released and it would still be some months before a workaround could be released for any (DTH) STB.
But yesterday, Mr. Charles Ergen (CEO) of DN "announced in a Memo to the (SI) department that he would be releasing the (G4) card for all PPV Movie, PPV Sports, and all PPV Porn Channels within the next few months for all (VIP) model MPEG4 boxes. I believe this is a calculated move to counter any and all (loopholes), and or (backdoors) that some (NDS) and (Kudelski Group) coders might have left into their older system Nagra1 and Nagra2 encryption systems that Nagra3 is based on. This is ofcourse circumvent all work hackers have done up to this time on Nagra3 systems to date, and will cause all the work done up to this point to be worthless. I personally believe this may have been his plan from the beginning and force hackers to stop work on the new system and to wait for
The release of Nagravision (G4) cards.
Sorry for the News but its all I have to offer.
Sorry to bust your bubble here but its NOT Nagra 3 encryption Charlie is going to use he is pulling all the stops out and going to NAGRA4 yeppers!! thats right Nagra4 encryption on all these PORNO channels. Sorry for the bad news guys but this has not even been seen outside the lab yet and their is no known hack!
Oh' Sorry forgot to mention that the new (G4) cards are only going to be issued to ppl with the (VIP) Receivers and substrictions to these Playboy channels, so anyone with a VIP receiver that is MPEG4 will get this cards.
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Re: nagra 4 (g4)
Well unless DN wants to lose a lot of customers they can't do this...... If they went to N4 for all Adult and PPV channels for MPEG4 stb's then only customers hitting the eastern arc dish will be able to watch them. DN is still putting up the western arc dish along with the 1000+. The eastern arc is the only sat they have with MPEG4, so like I stated unless they plan on making a lot of people upset this is nothing more than just a rumor.
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Re: nagra 4 (g4)
A card of this nature would stop paying customers from actually purchasing the PPV's and Porn channels as a one time event. I have not heard this rumor either...
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Re: nagra 4 (g4)
I believe this was an APRIL FOOLs post!
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Re: nagra 4 (g4)
N3 is the present day encryption or it will be in a few weeks.
G4 is just another card but is designed for VIP receivers. G4 card will
get u different results than would the G3 card.
So it is true but to fix the typo, it is N3 (G4). Out of respect for O.T.,
most if not all things that come from him, you can take it as gospel.
Just think it this way "Nagravision G4 Card".
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