My opinion

[leungc]

This is strickly my own opinion.
I believe there is a solid solution to N3 right now. In preparation to a full move by DN, the coders will work extra hard to make sure we all stay alive. BUT... that doesn't mean we will all be watching TV. This is an industry that millions of dollars are inputted and hope for a big return. In order to acheive this, FTA companies would and could release a brand new box that is compatible to the N3 bin files whereas the old boxes are not. It makes perfect sense for these companies to make a killing on this security switch; it is with no surprise that coders recieve a certain percentage as well.
In conclusion, don;t worry about going black... you just have to dish out some money for a new Box (go HD) and you are good to go. Since SV is going IKS with ihub, Viewsat will be releasing something big soon. stay tone and good health to everyone.

[cdo_care]

Good opinion there buddy. Thanks for sharing...

[creativegenius]

I think that N3 represents an opportunity for both change and evolution. Horse and Buggy have been replaced by Cars, Telex Machines were rendered obsolete by Fax Machines, Loading files by Serial Cable took a blow with the arrival and deployment of USB ports, this will now become extinct to the likes of IKS and auto-updating features.

The only constant, in life, is change itself.

Evolution dictates that we must either Adapt or Die.

Some will Adapt ... others well.

Creative Genius

[intrepidangel]

Alot will try to adapt - some will better than others - these boxes are cheap compared to the cost of a sub....the programming is highly overpriced and selection is poor.

I believe iks will quickly become a standard for some time.

[leungc]

IKS obviously is a good solution for now, but without PPV, the jar is still half full or half empty. A lot of ppl are still wondering about the safety issues for IKS. Even running it through a proxy server, they can still track down your IP. does anyone have an opinion on this?

[bill of oz]

Originally Posted by leungc

IKS obviously is a good solution for now, but without PPV, the jar is still half full or half empty. A lot of ppl are still wondering about the safety issues for IKS. Even running it through a proxy server, they can still track down your IP. does anyone have an opinion on this?

of course it is traceable, everything you do on the net is, the only question is if its worth the hassle to track individual users down or not, but the fact remains, if they want to they can.....

as for a nag3 solution.....i think the release of the IHub has in some way told us there will be no BIN released fixes, if there was going to be, then why bother with the IHub? especially after sonicview has said for so long they would NEVER do IKS.....seems to me like it is now thier one and only option.....

[fossil112]

IKS isn't any safer than downloading a bin file from your computer, IMHO.
Please reference this thread for a little more explanation.

[harleyman]

When it comes down to you think that they would come out with some kind of software up grade for the stbs we are useing right now.

[Beefeater1]

I hope your correct about your opinions but with so many teams trying to incorporate a type of iks solution it leads me to think the coders have nothing concrete.

Mind you, for the sake of stability and up time it could mean the top teams would like 2 options.

Lets face it, if one stb could have a stable iks system plus standalone working if/when n3 is solved they would have the best up time available.

That would certainly come with $ales.

IMO

[telefunkin]

Originally Posted by fossil112

IKS isn't any safer than downloading a bin file from your computer, IMHO.
Please reference this thread for a little more explanation.

There is nothing illegal about downloading a bin file to your computer. It is only when you use it to obtain sub programming that you are breaking the law and they would have to have access to your STB to prove that it was used for this purpose.

There is an inherent risk in using IKS in that it is always connected to the server and is only connected to serve one purpose...... free sub programming.

There are alot of opposing opinions about IKS and I'm not going to try to sway anyone one way or the other. I do believe that the risk of getting busted is extremely low but at the same time there is a risk and you should be prepared to deal with it.

[bill of oz]

Originally Posted by telefunkin

There is nothing illegal about downloading a bin file to your computer. It is only when you use it to obtain sub programming that you are breaking the law and they would have to have access to your STB to prove that it was used for this purpose.

There is an inherent risk in using IKS in that it is always connected to the server and is only connected to serve one purpose...... free sub programming.

There are alot of opposing opinions about IKS and I'm not going to try to sway anyone one way or the other. I do believe that the risk of getting busted is extremely low but at the same time there is a risk and you should be prepared to deal with it.

agreed 100%

[treelover]

Originally Posted by telefunkin

There is nothing illegal about downloading a bin file to your computer. It is only when you use it to obtain sub programming that you are breaking the law and they would have to have access to your STB to prove that it was used for this purpose.

There is an inherent risk in using IKS in that it is always connected to the server and is only connected to serve one purpose...... free sub programming.

There are alot of opposing opinions about IKS and I'm not going to try to sway anyone one way or the other. I do believe that the risk of getting busted is extremely low but at the same time there is a risk and you should be prepared to deal with it.

I cannot disagree with you but recall, Dave thought otherwise. Yes, he sent out thousands of letters demanding $10K from those who purchased equipment that could modify his cards. Not that they modified them, just that they could. This went on until a federal judge ruled Dave was out of line pursuing those who made the purchases but after Dave collected BIG BUCKS!

OK, so everybody agrees it is legal to download bins along with IKS stuff as long as you do not use it for subverting certain encryptions. And yes, a judge did rule agains Dave. But let me ask........ who is going to challenge Chuck and the Northern Provider with a lawsuit??? Who is ready to spend $500/hour attorney fees so the rest of us can enjoy the benefits of IKS???? Now I am not saying there is anything wrong with IKS at all!!!

I believe Chuck is going to jump on this IKS thing big time as its popularity explodes. The best advice was given some time ago by Carpenter1, Super Moderator. I suggest that everyone at least take the time to read his post!!!

http://www.abadss.com/forum/99-gener...n-posting.html

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