nfusion dealers busted - ABA DSS

**buddyjh** · September 16th, 2009

c/p

Today September 15th FTA.BUY.INC has been raided.
The owner Injun Cho & allies Jenny has been under investigation for about 2 years now from dishnetworks Si Team. FTA BUY Inc. has been setting up illegal FTA boxs by loading 3rd party software on there units for sale. Dishnetworks Si Team are planning to raid all Nfusion Authorized dealers. Please beware to stay away from the addresses below.

FTA BUY Inc.
Injun Cho
9101 Alondra Blvd. Unit B
Bellflower, CA 90706

&
Injun Cho
309 S Mariposa Ave
Apt 302
90020 Los Angeles

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dirtywill2001 · September 16th, 2009

not too smart on their part, preloading 3rd party software.
half the fun for me is setting up a box from scratch and getting it to work myself.

**snakebite** · September 16th, 2009

i dont understand why these guys would do something so stupid.thanks buddy.

tattooz2005 · September 16th, 2009

wholly agree snake bite....absolutly stupid on their part, but thanks for the heads up

**Victor Hugo** · September 16th, 2009

Thanks for all the Information Buddy.

**creativegenius** · September 16th, 2009

Busted for selling nFusion units - NO
Busted for adding third party software to an nFusion then selling it - Yes

Just when you think it can't possibly get any stupider

It always does.

Creative Genius

**MOE23** · September 16th, 2009

stupid but it's all about the$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

**MgGibson2** · September 16th, 2009

3rd party software...what's that ?? we are all strickly FTA right ?? he he he (well i am..... for now anyway =)

davidki · September 16th, 2009

I wonder if they charged for loading the bins? I recall years back that dealers would charge to program a box (like $20.00 or more) I wonder if that is what these guys were doing and got caught... don't think all the money they made to load the software will now pay their court costs..... Just another stupid action by these guys.. what don't they understand!

doggie · September 16th, 2009

What did they do one day?...woke up and forgot their brains. How stupid can you be.

WylieKyote · September 16th, 2009

They probably thought that big brother was too busy watching the other guy and they could get away with it. I don't know, like everyone says "it was stupid"

TMcKinnon · September 16th, 2009

reminds you of Forrest Gumps moma, Stupid is as stupid does

bat01 · September 16th, 2009

The post did not say if these guys faced criminal or civil charges for their lack of brains. If its only civil, they are looking at 100kcivil for each modified box.
I kinda know how it works because I know someone that got sued by Dave for 3.3 mil for selling 33 bootloaders. Its possible they could get jail time, but its unlikely.

bat01 · September 16th, 2009

I have seen several post in this forum from people that were really pissed about the demise of the NOva. One guy even said that he had a lot of friends and family that had boxes he had to replace. Some people try to make money with FTA boxes reselling them at a huge mark up then fold up their tent and go poof, when things get tough. I have little sympathy when they get their *** in a crack.

**desan** · September 16th, 2009

good post guys Thanks for all the updates its always good to be inform

**marty napier** · September 16th, 2009

thinks buddy!

EHG · September 16th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyjh

c/p

Today September 15th FTA.BUY.INC has been raided.
The owner Injun Cho & allies Jenny has been under investigation for about 2 years now from dishnetworks Si Team. FTA BUY Inc. has been setting up illegal FTA boxs by loading 3rd party software on there units for sale. Dishnetworks Si Team are planning to raid all Nfusion Authorized dealers. Please beware to stay away from the addresses below.

FTA BUY Inc.
Injun Cho
9101 Alondra Blvd. Unit B
Bellflower, CA 90706

&
Injun Cho
309 S Mariposa Ave
Apt 302
90020 Los Angeles

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Out of curiosity I went to the ftabuy web site and noted that although they offer nfusion products for sale, it is questionable as to whether they are an 'authorized' dealer. They indicate the following on their site:

"We are an AUTORIZED DEALER for Sonicview, Viewsat, Coolsat, and Conaxsat."

They also have the logos of those brands (plus Captiveworks and less the Coolsat logo) on their pages but do not have the nfusion logo or state that they are an authorized dealer.

Furthermore since this is a c/p from somewhere I question its veracity or perhaps it's only a partial statement as to what has possibly occured.

The c/p refers to the Dish Network SI team (I assume that is Special Investigations Team) as planning to raid all nfusion authorized dealers - THAT IS BUNK! Dish Network is a publically traded corporation and does not have the right to RAID anybody!! Their speical investigation team have no more power to raid a private business or home then does a local rent a cop.

The only thing that Dish Network can do either using their special investigation team or using private security firms is to gather evidence by going under cover and try to secure evidence of those that are breaking either civil or criminal law or both. If they are able to obtain evidence that they believe a judge would find as probable cause that either civil law or criminal law is being broken they then can turn this evidence over to the U.S Attorneys Office (for violations of criminal law) who then could seek a warrant from a Federal Judge and if issued could then either serve the warrant themselves or have a federal law enforcement agency such as the F.B.I. fulfill what would probably be a search and seizure warrant. At the option of the agency they could allow the Dish Network SI team to accompany them as observers while serving the warrant or on the "raid".

The other option is that they could use the evidence to file a federal Civil Lawsuit against the violators utilizing the evidence that they had secured using their undercover SI team such as boxes purchased, invoices, recordings made by wired SI team members and similar. In this type of scenario they could file the suit and seek a temporary injunction against these parties from doing what they have been accused of pending a court hearing at which time the judge could make the injunction permanent pending trial.

Another thing that seems odd about this is that FTABUY is an authorized Sonicview dealer and if they were guilty of loading 3rd party software into the nfusion it would seem that they would also do the same thing for their sonicviews which was not mentioned in the c/p.

As I said the Dish Network SI team can't RAID anybody and if search and seizure warrants have been issued by a judge for other nfusion dealerships and had not been carried out under most circumstances they would not become public knowledge until after the warrants had been served.

There may be some truth in this c/p but it is far from the FULL STORY and for now it most definitely belongs in this the RUMOR forum.

**RagingBull** · September 17th, 2009

I received this this morning in an email from an FTA site I do not remember visiting so I just ignored it.

**packrat** · September 18th, 2009

I have associates telling me rumors they heard about arrests for {similar}.So, I've been Googling for stories for a long time. I have only found real arrests of people who sell cards or hotwired Dish property.
Please tell me the truth about this. Where can I find the truth.Does anybody know the whole truth.?

**packrat** · September 18th, 2009

just an interesting news item. lookin fer it in english

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