I thought this was an interesting read - ABA DSS

**Beefeater1** · 3 Weeks Ago

I am not sure of the op but here it is.

this is a C/P
Viewsat, and for the mater.. NO_sat is any closer to hacking N3 than they were 3 months ago. All their hope was riding on Fred Raud who (supposedly) had thousands of pictures of the die (taken with that scope) and Trinity (who is now busted) who was gonna help put it all together, and send it to Korea for the finishing touches... see the way it works is.. you have your coders.. who actually do the hard work, who then pass the information on to the "team's" like Sonicview, Captiveworks etc..once those guys do what they have to do in regards to making that information work with receiver specific hardware, it then gets passed on to someone who actually has the source code to add in there, encrypt the bin, and pass it back to someone who distributes it to the masses. This is usually the process your beloved bin takes before it gets to fta sites like this one etc. Thats why it was always like.. "It's coming.. few hours... few more hours...because someone wasn't passing it along in a timely manner. Ok, now that we got this out of the way.. this brings us to today..

N3 is a beast and manufacturers like Nfusion knew that which is why they chose IKS off the bat. Kbox.. same thing... All hope was riding on these a**holes like David Fuss & Fred Raud who turned out to be rats and informants. Then Trinity got busted and sadness enveloped the community. I'm not certain who Trinity is but word had it that he or she was sharing information between CW, SV, & VS. So now that Trin is out of the picture, these guys are left to fend for themselves.

Some FTA sites (you know who they are) are stooping to new lows in an effort to keep their numbers up and their ad revenue. They are intentionally posting bullchit in an effort to jump start the community. I personally have been approached by a few people suggesting I create fake nicks here and post bull****.. which I kindly turned down. I will not insult the fine members here by testing
their intelligence. We have all been arond that barrel more than once and I'd like to keep this a place where you can get away from all that. Thats the main reason we rely on donations and our google ad revenue.. because the FTA dealers and manufacturers wanted us to "sell out" in order to jump onboard and we turned them down. We will not post whatever they want us to post, and we will not try to convince you to buy a receiver that we ourselves would not buy! Yes, I have been a mod, or supermod at some sites and I know the inner workings and what conversations really take place between staff members in private and most of it is a continual effort to deceive the masses to "keep them here". Thats why I joined the ranks of ******* and vowed to make it different.. no matter what revenue we may sacrifice in doing so. In turn, I realized that all you guys want is the truth and the donations continued to trickle in. So thats the way we keep it! Sucka Free!

The truth is.. N3 is hacked, the cards are compromised and the information is being kept a closely guarded secret by the folks who are bringing you devices such as the "Slinger" by Mili and crew. They see this as their time to shine and make the money that FTA deprived them of. There is already evidence of "dealerware" and cards being programed in small circles. The people who have the information are actually too scared to sell it to anyone for fear of ending up in **** with Kwak. So the next suggestion is to "Just give it away", to which the reply is always.. "HELL NO". There is also word of a rom206 partial dump floating around which may or may not assist in a card hack or at the least, aid in opening more iks channels and keeping them open.

The main players or "Hero's" of last generation who contributed to the success of FTA are now in hiding and are leaving it all up to the new guys who are grasping at straws and trying to figure out how to keep their IKS setups from freezing every 10 seconds. Someone once said that "The future of testing will be IKS" and now I know they were onto something. If you hear bull**** rumors of a possible fix being released by an FTA brand.. you can automatically call bullchit if it hasnt been tested on a Triple Dragon, Dreambox, or PC Emulator
card first. "Unless!" It gets leaked straight to an FTA coder by a disgruntled plastic hacker, or someone who trusts the other person enough to make a deal. FTA manufacturers are no longer making money off of sales so they no longer have the money to pay for any research. It's all being done in house now with limited resources.

Viewsat has laid off more than half of their employees and is now looking to IKS for the foreseeable future. Yes, you heard me right.. IKS. Regardless of what Site XXX says... it's reality. I challenge anyone else to come in here and tell me otherwise. (I'm waiting...) Sonicview is in the IKS game but their Ihub really sucks right now and you cannot watch a descent program without having to toggle channels back and forth every time it freezes. That may have something to do with Microsoft's new Host Tracker software.. allowing chuck to play games.. or it could be simply that the people running the servers don't know what the hell they're doing. Nfusion seems to be running smooth but they don't have the big fights like Sonicview does. For now... you should either subscribe.. or attempt to embrace IKS while we wait for the information for a "True Standalone" fix to be leaked. You all saw the pictures of the rumored VS receiver with an ethernet port.. that was a real pic.

The bullchit release date we all had hopes for was nothing more than a ploy to sell receivers. I didnt find out till the very same day it was supposed to be released that it was in fact bullchit. The reason for that was I am thinking I cannot really trust my sources anymore either due to the fact that they know I speak the truth and people respect me for that, so they want to feed me bullchit to pass it on to you, so you accept it as truth.. thats why it takes me a bit longer now to separate fact from fiction.

Like Ive said before.. the game is not over and N3 is not as secure as the providers had hoped. So maybe there will be in the sometime future a fix.
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**slowboy** · 3 Weeks Ago

I CANT HOLD MY BREATH ANY MORE BUT IF IT COME I WILL DAM SHORE LOAD IT UP THANKS!!!!!l

**tomcat01** · 3 Weeks Ago

this looks like al the c/p's from the last few months put together......... really read each paragraph anyways i want the code to be leaked to all this way there is not just one person gaining.. this hobbie has just turned into a big money grab i want the code to be released on the net for all to put up there recievers this way we can move on and people can choose what reciever they want .. dvb cards etc ..

**Beefeater1** · 3 Weeks Ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat01

this looks like al the c/p's from the last few months put together......... really read each paragraph anyways i want the code to be leaked to all this way there is not just one person gaining.. this hobbie has just turned into a big money grab i want the code to be released on the net for all to put up there recievers this way we can move on and people can choose what reciever they want .. dvb cards etc ..

Yup, i did say interesting.....Maybe not factual but maybe more than I've read in a while.

I don't like reading books though so this sharpens my reading speed if nothing else.

**creativegenius** · 3 Weeks Ago

If and when their is a N3 file floated ... it will be WW3 on FTA. The coders would be best to release it all at the same time. Although progress may come by way of plastic, which I understand was the norm anyway.

Any news from the Emunation crowd

Creative Genius

y0da · 3 Weeks Ago

very interesting indeed

**bigbird69** · 3 Weeks Ago

This came from Wilmero at his home site. A good read and unbiased. Right now there is way too much heat for anyone to release anything in my opinion. Wil speaks the truth.

bigbird

**lonster** · 3 Weeks Ago

It's difficult to dissect any truth now-a-days but it was definitely interesting to read none the less...

Thanks Beef

catdozer · 3 Weeks Ago

but the vs hq says AWAITING NEWS ANYTIME NOW, from all i have been reading i have to assume bullchit again, still think there is enough people that are plenty smart enough to crack this egg... i'm just not one of them

**Sync45** · 3 Weeks Ago

this makes more sense than anything I have read in awhile, thanks for the info

**just4ufolks** · 3 Weeks Ago

Thax "BEEF" and so the story goes on...stay tuned folks...if you have NO-HOPE you have nothing...patience is virtue ppl..stay with ABA your one stop resources for all updates and support...thx again bud...for the info...

**jpeterson** · 3 Weeks Ago

Beef,

Thanks for the info. Whether rumor or not, it does make sense. So thanks!

sailor666 · 3 Weeks Ago

I don't want to dis any other contributing members, but this is one of the most sensible posts I have read to date. The analogy actually makes sense.

**satdown42** · 3 Weeks Ago

Very interesting post,he or she is doing there research with a fine tooth comb.When they say they don't want to insult anybody in the fta community its probably because its know to them from what they read we are not stupid and do our homework first before posting.
Well we will wait to see what happens i hope not in ten years from now!

**fossil112** · 3 Weeks Ago

I agree with the WW3 statement by CG. When N3 hit, receiver sales hit rock bottom. Heck, you can't sell a VS on fleabay for $40 these days. Although, prices did go up about 50% last week. So yes, no doubt they stated a fix to boost income...who wouldn't? We see this type of hype everyday in real world, why would the FTA community be any different.

Bottom line, this is big business for all involved financially. That's why the laws and associated fines are so hefty.

Personally, I don't expect to see a fix from anyone before the first of the year. Probably around March. There's just too much fog being pushed around right now...things are too heated. It needs to cool down before any real progress is made.

BruinsFan · 3 Weeks Ago

Here here, Beefeater1. I ve been around a while, and I do alot of reading, not much posting however and you are right on the Money!!!. I look at whats Europe has been doing for years, and in fact I believe thats where the n2 breakthrough came if I'm not mistaken. Rumors that I have been following for a long time is the p4 stuff (thats all I will say). Not so long ago there was alot of chit chat on buying cards. On the other side there are small groups or circles that are sharing subs but thats it. You said it-- there is no unity among the mufact, coders or techs and until there are TRUSTED joined forces, things wont change. Great reading and on the money

GO BRUINS

mxyplyx · 3 Weeks Ago

Good reading Beefeater1 and thankyou. Makes a lot of sense and I am sure dish has turned up the heat just as direct did in the hu days. Need to let things cool off and see what the new year brings.

jjw0782 · 3 Weeks Ago

I don't think VS in their right mind would do IKS right now in the trouble they are in. Dish already prooved their boxes were made for illegal activities that would just drive them bankrupt if they aren't already going bankrupt.

**jeffn** · 3 Weeks Ago

I agree with you..it always comes..just take time!

bolt555 · 3 Weeks Ago

theres so much bull ship out there i quit dam
heres one more cut and paste

...A tidbit of info for those of you who are such skeptical PUMPKIN HEADS!!....... The private CW codes are now known and, thanks to GURU, three extra layers of silicone in the G3 security chips have been successfully peeled away. This has led to the needed breakthrough with regards to unraveling the N3 security encryption. HALLOWEEN IS COMING