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40 Pansat Dealers Subpoenaed

40 Pansat Dealers Subpoenaed


this is a subpoena (notice to appear and give testimony) sent to pansat dealers concerning the case:
echo star vs Panarex

See attached
(sorry for the quality it was all I could secure)

an anonymous source recenty informed me that 40 dealers were subpoenaed this week in the panrex vs echo star case for an aug 4th court date.

not sure what to make of this yet.. sounds like a big fishing expedition or maybe more to this

It would seem that the pansat house of cards is falling

This is just an educated guess:

They (echo star) want customers names that did purchase these legit receivers. They will then match names and email address from these legit purchases and match them against members on busted websites. They can then turn this into a bunch of civil cases like dave did in the past. Its hard to dispute if they have proof that you purchased a pansat receiver and then the same person posts in an FTA forum how great there units are running with the latest patches they downloaded. Look at DTV and all the $3500 judgements they received for people who bought boot loaders.. There were thousands of people who were forced to pay up. I would bet Dish will follow this type of action. Once they match users who downloaded the files and can match records of the sale of all the equipment they can make cases. If you have downloaded any kind of third and they link your name (purchase) to your IP/email address, they would have grounds to send you that infamous $5000 extortion letter. Although technically they couldn't prove you used the third party, you would still be liable. Same as the DTV days - they never caught anyone watching their signal illegally, they just prosecuted everyone and anyone who bought or downloaded a


Not saying that will do this but its a bet that they are fishing for this type of information.



here's a quote by Commanded:


Quote:
This subpoena is a great !
The true fact is this is noting more then a scare tactics. Lets think about this all "Panrex" Getting sued from echo star but echo star doesn't have a defense so they have to turn to "Panrex" Dealers for info ?

Request

1: All documents conceding satellite Television Piracy

(Quote) Lets think about this # 1 question . What satellite dealer would have a legit business having any sort of " Television Piracy Documents" Your *** may be grass if you do not answered that right !


2:All communications and documents that identify communications between you and Panrex or any other Person concerning Satellite Television Piracy

(Quote) We all know as end users you can TRY to call ViewTech Or CoolSat or Even Panrex and ask them anything about Dish and you will not get a response or in some case you will get dial tone after they hang up on your *** ! I hope no dealer who was not legit would answer that question wrong !


3: All documents concerning Third Part Software

(Quote) I can see if now all kinds of Dealers Sending there FAQs over . Yea Step one on how you hack a box "RIGHT !!!! Good try on a low blow but no one is going to go for a cheap shot like this .


4: All communications and document that identify between you and Planar or any outer Person Echo star's Conditional Access Security
(Quote) Sure buddy let me just pull that info off my . I'm sure every dealer just has PDFs of Echo star's Conditional Access Security System " NOT ! " What a great way to get yourself into allot of trouble mines well say you write the code for the **** as well .


5:All documents concerning Third Party Software

(Quote) If you do or you don't saying anything about 3rd party software to echo star is a law suite . Tell them to use Google's !


6:All communications and documents that identify communications between you and Planar or any souther Person concerning Third Party Software

(Quote) Yea be sure that your clears any such inbound MSG for good . Don't forget to tell them how your a tester and Mr Kim sends you Bins to test on DN every night " LOL "


7:All documents concerning the capability of Pansat Receivers to receive Dish Networks Programming either with or with out the addition of Third Party Software

(Quote) Well last time I'v Checked Pansat didn't use no kinda "IKS" Unlike Nfusion there for looks like were back at points 5,6 so that leaves out receive DN with no Bin files . You got to remember you don't know noting about 3rd party Software.


8:All communication and documents that identify communications between You and Panrex or any outer Person concerning the capability of Pansat Receivers to receive Dish

(Quote) Ah Yea we think the receiver will pull in NASA or channel 100 . Remember You don't know **** about DN !


9:Produce copies of all Third Party Software

(Quote) I hope you see the issue is Third Party Software We see it in about every question . " YOU DON'T KNOW JACK **** ABOUT THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE !!!!!!


10: Produce for inspection and copy all Pansat Receivers that are capable of receiving Dish Net Works

(QUOTE) Remember we use all Pansat STB for Derka Derka programming on FREE TO AIR !


11: Documents sufficient to identify each website on wish you advertise or have advertised Pansat Receivers

(Quote) Iv used goggles besides that no website has every has are permission to put banners up of are business


12: Documents sufficient to identify each website in which You hold or have held and ownership interest

(QUOTE) Yea iv always wanted to own AsianSluts or CumInTheFace dot com Get Real Echo Star


13: All documents concerning the names or alias "" "KHACHIK"KHACHIL BAGDASARYAN "OR"CHRIS BAGDASARYAN"

(QUOTE) Wow so now Echo Star is linking this Guy KHACHIL BAGDASARYAN "OR"CHRIS BAGDASARYAN" to "BLACKLIST" Well this is a Hugh ****en lawsuit in the making I hope Echo star has some hard proof if there going to put info out like this on the net. Remember NargaStar is a **** hole LLC that is backed by ECHO STAR now if this is true for a Hugh billion dollars operation to put that out there better be some hard *** proof.


14:All communication and documents that identify communication between You and Panrex or any outer person concerning the name or alias "BLACKLIST" "KHACHIK"KHACHIL BAGDASARYAN "OR"CHRIS BAGDASARYAN"

(QUOTE) There has been allot of rumor about this "BLACKLIST GUY " AKA CHRIS BAGDASARYAN busted by the FBI now if this is true Echo Star & Narga Star has ****ed up there investigation Big Time. That is for sure against some sort of Federal Law !


I hope Mr Kim gets off his chop noodle *** and sick's his lawyers on them for harassment like this. If echo star wants to go fishing do it the right way and take it to the ocean.

Last edited by arboristman; July 13th, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason: url's removed.thanks for the pm.
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