im going to put the rumors to rest about DN

[ertiself]

gentlemen im going to say this only once.. first off DN is too stupid to try to trace IP's do you have any idea how hard that is to do?? frankly i dont care.. i use very very good encryption plus my own VPN and also the link is proxy as well..i have 2 computers that use there own UDP server type system and also even if the DN thinks thats they have us.. ill say this nice try!!! LOL..

we are not stupid and nfusion is not stupid as well.. and UDP is one way communication and it is just like P2P like torrent software is some cases unless there going to trace the whole internet there is no way even if they did this for 20 yrs could DN even cover 1% of the internet it takes 10 super computers 10 yrs to cover 1% internet.. these rumors are to scare people from the nfusion because that nfusion is way ahead of the pack and simply the best...dony be fool's and follow or even consider the rumors that DN can trace the nfusion's at all.. even if you dont use proxys it still sends on UDP and thats one way.. then it gets reply from another server thats UDP proxyed for the data.. there is no way to use that way to trace.. bu most of us know this by heart.. but some have to play games and put out scares because they cant keep up with nfuison...

you decide...

nfusion is the best of the best.. and thats my two cents worth..

[johnnybluedawg]

thanks for the info ! always appreciated,,good luck

[Landscapeman]

The possibility is out there to get IP's(yours,mine), That is what stems the fear. Charlie would need to get access to the IKS servers to get definite proof. At that point they could accuse, but not prove. To much money and time and I think it would bring more publicity than Charlie would ever want.

[ertiself]

i agree with your statement.. but it would be well suited that every one know that nothing is totaly secure but it is very hard to just track ips.. but what can charlie do with ip's its not against the law to go to this site and also all information on this site is protected under the freedom of information act.. and the fifth amendment.. so your correct they would have to get the suns server and that is quite hard to do..

secondly like i said people put out scare's to make people run or cause havick...

[just4ufolks]

Thx for the perspectve guyz...
enjoy the show and stay rt here with ABA for all ur updates n resources to take it to the next level of enhanced entertainment..take care...gud day every day everyone..

[website_vandal]

Why do people start posts like this? All I can say is look up a proxy bud and see what kind of proxy you need to "disguise" UDP traffic. Those "proxies" you are using on the Nfusion are for TCP traffic...there is a difference.

And its not hard at all to trace an i.p. Do you know I can send you an email and have it track back to me your i.p address just from you opening it? Not a pm on here but if you're dumb enough to list a Yahoo email account or something like that on your profile I can get your i.p. from there all I do is run a whois on it....

Torrents use TCP and UDP traffic btw so the Nfusion is not just like torrents. And I've known plenty of people that have been caught using torrents.

And although its not against the law to go to any fta site it has yet to be challenged if it is against the law to log in to an Nfusion server that exists for one reason and one reason only.

Oh and let me say "nice try" with your VPN (virtual private network) running proxies. I think a lot of people on here try to throw around a lot of technical jargon to sound like they have a grasp of everything. Let me tell you that a VPN is not going to protect you from your ISP or DN spying on what you are doing....theres thousands of pedophiles in prison that thought using a VPN would protect them.

In closing I don't hate Nfusion I don't sell stb boxes I don't push one box over another. What I DO hate is misinformation and there seems to be a LOT of it concerning IKS and whether you can be caught or not. And people continually hit the "thanks" button like its gospel....lmfao. I don't get it???

[Sgt]

Well I see the OP, has really accomplished his goal of "putting the rumors to rest" LMFAO

[ertiself]

yes Sir your correct on that any IP can be traced toi sume dagree.. then what? what do you have.. a IP WoW let me give you a hand clap clap.. you have a IP traced it ok now what? there are so may cow boys out there that no one knows the real ones from the players of the game or the out come of it.. like i have said im here defending you...against the rumors from so called DN.. thats all.. dont shoot the messanger unless you know that he is threstening your hobby im on your side guy..

[Bud_Alcor]

Wow great posts guys. All of them are very good.

[ertiself]

and mR webiste vandal, what is it that i have said that has made me your target here..maybe you need to pick a side here...i know what it is to be able to send pings and logic bombs and all that crap.. i dont care about it.. what i care about is the first rumor that started this about DN hireing a so called genius and he or she is the best coder and he was the one that cracked N2.. now lets see how would DN know this i wonder?????? well maybe advertiseing or maybe he got caught... and his joice was working for them or go to prision....

Mr. webiste vandal i thank you for your insite in the IP traceing and and that information was stimulateing to here but its not about you or any one and certainly not personal but im here to defend the coders amd you so please unless you have some thing positive to say please dont say any thing...

[bigevil69]

Originally Posted by ertiself

and mR webiste vandal, what is it that i have said that has made me your target here..maybe you need to pick a side here...i know what it is to be able to send pings and logic bombs and all that crap.. i dont care about it.. what i care about is the first rumor that started this about DN hireing a so called genius and he or she is the best coder and he was the one that cracked N2.. now lets see how would DN know this i wonder?????? well maybe advertiseing or maybe he got caught... and his joice was working for them or go to prision....

Mr. webiste vandal i thank you for your insite in the IP traceing and and that information was stimulateing to here but its not about you or any one and certainly not personal but im here to defend the coders amd you so please unless you have some thing positive to say please dont say any thing...

everyone can voice their opinion as long as they don't insult another member or bash anyone or this site

[website_vandal]

I'm not making you a target of anything. I was clearing up some misinformation you gave in your post. Your post is eluding to the fact that you are bullet proof using IKS and I'm here to tell you that you are not my friend. When you post things like this and I'll quote:

first off DN is too stupid to try to trace IP's do you have any idea how hard that is to do?? frankly i dont care.. i use very very good encryption plus my own VPN and also the link is proxy as well.

You are leading the first time fta'er down a very dangerous path. I read posts every day about the first time IKS user or those considering IKS

Can I be caught be using IKS?

. Don't you figure that those people deserve to be told the truth....that bottom line it is a very risky way of watching free tv. Frankly I don't unerstand what you are "defending" me from anyways?

[ertiself]

i have no problem with that..look guys this is all for you to know yes im new ti this site. but i will not allow or condone DN passing rumors lets just say this is DN could do what they say then when are they going to do it?? and then if they can trace us or monitor us any time and as Mr. webiste vandal pointed out then why have they not been able to act?? one reason.. the Law...

ill put this matter to a close for the respect of othere's here subject has been draged on anough.. that one's that cant keep up or dont have the mean's to keep up make scare's and remarks to make us rethink our plan and cause havick to make us question out place..

thats all..

take care...good luck...

[ertiself]

Mr. website vandal any thing can be broken if one wants to break it.. but why.. its like useing a billion dollar canon to blast a ant hill in afirca.. if we dont make noise about what we can do.. then we stay the ant hill in afirca.. but if we make rumors that cause havick to those that dont understand the hobby then they ask questions because they dont understand then we all come under fire and we are not the ant hill any more..

im sorry about my claims that i was wrong to direct. and i retract the statement...

[website_vandal]

Not a problem my friend it just gets redundant reading posts from newbies every single day about how IKS works or doesn't work. Most that get involved in it don't do their homework and read posts like these that give both sides. Then those people need to be spoon fed on the intricate workings of IKS and if they can be anonymous with a proxy on IKS, what a proxy is, how to find a proxy, how to use a proxy and so on and so on. I'm sure you meant no harm with your post just as I meant no harm. I have an inhertant grasp on proxies and hiding yourself on line as I do it on a daily basis to crack pron sites. I can get proxies by the thousands and test them, weed out dangerous ones and so on. I can also change my mac address at will. I'm very versed at network security and know how to keep myself out of trouble....

[SoDarkTheCon]

Its very simple...some trust and some don't. It is a pointless arguement, they could do many things if they wanted and they could not. If and when N3 is broken could be the deciding factor on how they prosecute satellite piracy.

[ertiself]

yes i agree.. but the same goes.. how??? and when...this has been tried before with the RIAA on torrents.. its not a true science but it has been tried it also has been tried by DN before to get at nfusion... same goes it failed... while i do agree that the measures are well known.. when and how and what action is the question...i can say that im prepared...

[slowboy]

i just want too say great reading this post we can learn from reading each others post very interesting here thanks again

[Nitrain]

Does infusion work on a different system than the other receivers?

[painterguy14]

It works by iks... internet key sharing