Have Your Attention Here Please - ABA DSS

**rajiv427** · May 7th, 2008

Credit goes to mantrafta for this beautiful post.

C/p.

I want my new bin!

Man have I ever seen this question/demand and "how come it's taking so long" an awful lot in the forums lately.

In fact it gets to the point of being monotonous.

1. Asking for a new file or complaining about a box manufacturer being slow to release a file doesn't speed up the process if there is a reason why the boxes are down. All it really does is infuriate other members and the staff at the forum your at no matter how politely you word the darn thing.

2. There seems to be an attitude that the manufacturers/coders owe you your new fix. Nothing could be farther from the truth folks, legally the manufacturers sold you a box for free FTA and most have a disclaimer about using third party software on it for illegal reasons. So like it or not, whether you feel the manufacturer sold you the box knowing you would load third party software on it or not. The box was sold to you for Free To Air purposes.
Now the coders, did you pay them anything? With this I mean personally, did you put a check or money order in the mail for them?

Now some will argue that the manufacturers are paying them and it comes out of the price of the box.

Really? Well if you bought your box even a year ago, I think your payment via this route has more than been spent already and I think you better get your checkbook out if you think the coders owe you anything.

So lets all quit with the attitude that anybody owes you your third party fix, it just ain't so.

3. We all have been a bit spoiled lately with the quick fixes coming out within hours of an ECM. Well anybody that has been in this a while can tell you that it is not always the case. The reality is that the fixes will most likely get harder now. With the card swap looming in the future most likely they will even get more difficult.

So keep this in mind as you come into a forum, don't come in begging or demanding a fix. Don't come in complaining about a manufacturer or coder group and especially don't if you have had more than a years use of "free tv". In that particular case you have been more than paid back for the price of your box.

OK rant over and apologies to staff and members, but not bin beggers.

**showgun101** · May 7th, 2008

good thread it is so true the coders work hard and i sure couldnt do it way to go guys

tednugent · May 7th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajiv427

Credit goes to mantrafta for this beautiful post.

C/p.

I want my new bin!

Man have I ever seen this question/demand and "how come it's taking so long" an awful lot in the forums lately.

In fact it gets to the point of being monotonous.

1. Asking for a new file or complaining about a box manufacturer being slow to release a file doesn't speed up the process if there is a reason why the boxes are down. All it really does is infuriate other members and the staff at the forum your at no matter how politely you word the darn thing.

2. There seems to be an attitude that the manufacturers/coders owe you your new fix. Nothing could be farther from the truth folks, legally the manufacturers sold you a box for free FTA and most have a disclaimer about using third party software on it for illegal reasons. So like it or not, whether you feel the manufacturer sold you the box knowing you would load third party software on it or not. The box was sold to you for Free To Air purposes.
Now the coders, did you pay them anything? With this I mean personally, did you put a check or money order in the mail for them?

Now some will argue that the manufacturers are paying them and it comes out of the price of the box.

Really? Well if you bought your box even a year ago, I think your payment via this route has more than been spent already and I think you better get your checkbook out if you think the coders owe you anything.

So lets all quit with the attitude that anybody owes you your third party fix, it just ain't so.

3. We all have been a bit spoiled lately with the quick fixes coming out within hours of an ECM. Well anybody that has been in this a while can tell you that it is not always the case. The reality is that the fixes will most likely get harder now. With the card swap looming in the future most likely they will even get more difficult.

So keep this in mind as you come into a forum, don't come in begging or demanding a fix. Don't come in complaining about a manufacturer or coder group and especially don't if you have had more than a years use of "free tv". In that particular case you have been more than paid back for the price of your box.

OK rant over and apologies to staff and members, but not bin beggers.

Thankyou sooooo much for spelling that out...Patience is truely a virtue

pinoy_tayo · May 7th, 2008

Hahaha. This is a GOOD one. Digger and asking files rea this thread.

**monoxid** · May 7th, 2008

I think this should remain right at the top of the first page opening. Great posting.

**soptik** · May 7th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajiv427

Credit goes to mantrafta for this beautiful post.

C/p.

I want my new bin!

Man have I ever seen this question/demand and "how come it's taking so long" an awful lot in the forums lately.

In fact it gets to the point of being monotonous.

1. Asking for a new file or complaining about a box manufacturer being slow to release a file doesn't speed up the process if there is a reason why the boxes are down. All it really does is infuriate other members and the staff at the forum your at no matter how politely you word the darn thing.

2. There seems to be an attitude that the manufacturers/coders owe you your new fix. Nothing could be farther from the truth folks, legally the manufacturers sold you a box for free FTA and most have a disclaimer about using third party software on it for illegal reasons. So like it or not, whether you feel the manufacturer sold you the box knowing you would load third party software on it or not. The box was sold to you for Free To Air purposes.
Now the coders, did you pay them anything? With this I mean personally, did you put a check or money order in the mail for them?

Now some will argue that the manufacturers are paying them and it comes out of the price of the box.

Really? Well if you bought your box even a year ago, I think your payment via this route has more than been spent already and I think you better get your checkbook out if you think the coders owe you anything.

So lets all quit with the attitude that anybody owes you your third party fix, it just ain't so.

3. We all have been a bit spoiled lately with the quick fixes coming out within hours of an ECM. Well anybody that has been in this a while can tell you that it is not always the case. The reality is that the fixes will most likely get harder now. With the card swap looming in the future most likely they will even get more difficult.

So keep this in mind as you come into a forum, don't come in begging or demanding a fix. Don't come in complaining about a manufacturer or coder group and especially don't if you have had more than a years use of "free tv". In that particular case you have been more than paid back for the price of your box.

OK rant over and apologies to staff and members, but not bin beggers.

absolutly right rajiv427,this is a good and true post. thanks to all coders for their hard work. who wants to complain think about it! be nice and be patient.

**harleyman** · May 7th, 2008

I think you hit the nail right on the head there.I have been in this hobby for some time now and have seen this happen a few times.Some people I tell ya.

**lonster** · May 7th, 2008

Allot of people need to read that.

**Apocalypse_67** · May 7th, 2008

Excellent thread Rajiv. I made it a sticky and hopefully people will read it and apply it's purpose.

bigfoot2 · 1 Week Ago

Read your post about true FTA, Well I have a brand new Homesat for over a year and nobody knows how to set it up to get FTA, not even the store in Edmonton where I bought it. I want FTA, not this bin crap that I have load in all the time to make it work, I don't want BEV, DISH, DIRECT TV or any of that crap anyway. I posted so many forums and no one could help me get this door stop I have to work, I bought big dish for it and motor, all I have is nothing and no one but no one knows how to get true fta to work for my homesat for the past year. I tried to download the loader that refused to work on my computer and wouldn't even unzip, tried many, many sites to no avail. All the same loader too, none worked. Would be nice if you would post for each receiver how to really set it up for TRUE FTA. Then you could point me in the right direction. Factory defaults are supposed to work, get a 100 percent signal but no quality on a 39inch dish and I live next to Calgary. Talked to local sat techs and want three to four hundred with no guarantee it will work, this is crazy and pissed. What a waste of money.