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Old September 23rd, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

Hi guys I have a new CaptiveWorks 650S that I've been playing around with. Last night I was able to get Echostar 9 and get 46 channels but almost all were scrambled. I have applied fix 1.37 today and it has unscrambled them.

For Echostar 6,8 and 7 on 110W and 119W I have between 80% and 90% on both signal AND quality. I know I am locked on to the Sats but when I scan it (still saying b/w 80 and 90% throughout scan) using AUTO SCAN it does not find any channels. I have tried blind scans as well as the Auto Tuning feature but I'm still empty-handed. . . what am I doing wrong?

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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

you need to list your settings,and dish type ,and lnbs,
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

and make sure in you settings that when you are on a bird that the number is in the upper right hand corner like 119
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

Thanks guys. Okay I've recently made the switch from D*TV to FTA so here's what I've found outside on the dish.

Slimline Dish

DTVSDLNB
D*TV Multi-Satellite Ka/Ku LNB
99/101/110/119 Degrees W Reception
Built-in Multi-Switch with 4 Outputs
Compatible with all Slimline Dish Antennaes

Settings

Sat Name......17EchoStar 7 (119W)..........23Echostar 6,8 (110W)
Transponder...12676/H/20000/Auto............12224/V/20000/5/6
LNB Freq.............11250............................ .......11250
LNB Type............Normal............................ ......Normal
22 KHz................Auto........................... ..........Auto
Diseqc #..............None............................... ......None
Legacy SW...........Off.................................. ......Off
Motorised Sys.......None.................................... .None

Quality..................91%...................... ...............84%
Strength................88%....................... ..............87%

Let me know if anyone needs more info
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

i do not believe that dish and lnbs will work for what you want
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

Sat Name......17EchoStar 7 (119W)..........23Echostar 6,8 (110W)
Transponder...12239............12224/V/20000/5/6
LNB Freq.............11250............................ .......11250
LNB Type............Normal or ocs-dp ....Normal ocs-dp if you have dn stuff
22 KHz................off.......................... ..........off
Diseqc #..............lnb1............................... ......lnb2
Legacy SW...........Off.................................. ......Off
Motorised Sys.......None.................................... .None

scan them one at a time
red button auto scan
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

on your remote,,,hit menu,,system setting,,osd and at the very buttom,,,change to auto roll on and also dont forget to hit f1 and press 0000 to enable it..hope this help..
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

fordman did you see his dish and lnb set up???????
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

echo 9 is not used anymore....maybe 10 channels max.....and you need a linear LNB for it
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

no but thanks for pointing that out get a dish500 and the setting will work all day long,,,,,lol
Slimline Dish
is only good for dave unless you get brackets and lnbs
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

this is what fordman is talking about. this is your typical hardware for picking up 110 and 119. much easier setup w/o external switches needed. one cable back to your box and *BAM*...you're up and running


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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

OK so where can I get this? Ebay? Thanks so much for your help.
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

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OK so where can I get this? Ebay? Thanks so much for your help.
Yes. Cisco is correct, those Dave LNBs will not work on DN. The dish 500 will work fine that Fordman01 recommended and it is widely available on Ebay used. It is what I have and works fine even way up here in Canada.
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

Okay guys thanks for the help one more question and I'll be done haha. Does it matter if I get the Dish Pro Quad LNB or Dish Pro Twin LNB? Whats the biggest Difference? I was looking at this on Ebay HERE
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

that ones pretty good you can run 4 stb with no switches.are you gonna want hd later???
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Yeah I will definetly be gettin an HD receiver. We have a 62" Sony WEGA thats beggin for it. We had HD with D*TV and the quality really isnt bad at all with the 650s, but I will be investing in one soon. Would I need anything different? Also what stops ppl from just getting the DP Quad LNB and putting it on the Slimline dish? Does anyone have any experience with a good HD STB?
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

more headaches then what its worth.take a look at this dish
DISH1000.2 Dish Network 1000.2 satellite Antenna NEW - eBay (item 160196004172 end time Oct-01-08 01:53:11 PDT)
110/119/129 129 is all hd
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Re: Echostar 6,8 & 9 Good signal and quality but no channels?

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Yeah I will definetly be gettin an HD receiver. We have a 62" Sony WEGA thats beggin for it. We had HD with D*TV and the quality really isnt bad at all with the 650s, but I will be investing in one soon. Would I need anything different? Also what stops ppl from just getting the DP Quad LNB and putting it on the Slimline dish? Does anyone have any experience with a good HD STB?
if you're wanting HD, the 500 system won't work for you as it isn't capable of handling HD.
a 1000.2 system is a typical system used for HD. it will pickup 110, 119 and 129 (majority of your HD channels). you'll need a dp44 switch, which can run about $50-70 on Eb@y. The 1000.2 hardware (dish, yoke, lnbs, etc) usually run less than $100.
a good HD receiver is a Viewsat 9000HD. just my personal humble opinion
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DISH1000.2 Dish Network 1000.2 satellite Antenna NEW - eBay (item 160196004172 end time Oct-01-08 01:53:11 PDT)
110/119/129 129 is all hd
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