No more 110, 119,129, in the midwest - ABA DSS

BAMPA · August 25th, 2009

I was talking to a dn dealer today and he is not installing any more !000.2 dishes only 1000.4 dishes and pointing them at the eastern arch, he told me that dn is going to be phasing out 110, 119, & 129. He said that he can no longer order any equipment for 110, 119, & 129. Has anyone else herd anything like this and what sats are in the eastern arch

**gimpalong** · August 25th, 2009

I know that the new eastern arc includes 77, 72.7 and 61.5 but I don't see 72.7 in my sat list on my sv8000

**tiger-55** · August 25th, 2009

I wonder what they are going to do with existing custmor. Have't heard any thing about that.

BAMPA · August 25th, 2009

The dn dealer told me that he is in the process of switching them over, changing their dish and their satelitte system, he sounded like he was telling the truth, but you never know?

hawkeyi · August 26th, 2009

This is horrible news. There are trees blocking 1000.4.

**Victor Hugo** · August 26th, 2009

Sorry to heard the bad news.

BAMPA · August 26th, 2009

Is anyone here running the 1000.4 pointed at the eastern arch?

y0da · August 26th, 2009

Well...

Several HD Local channels in the midwest are (newly) up and going on CEILII. It would seem to me that 110/119 are still in good hands and I think you got a portion of the whole story....

There are simply TOO many customers to replace all that gear. It may be done through attrition, but even that will be a difficult task.

y0da · August 26th, 2009

some more info on this subject:

EchoStar XIV

Under constructin for launch in late 2009 to 119° (other estimates put the launch in 1Q10 for service in 3/10). This satellite has been designed with a combination of CONUS and spot beam capacity and could be used at multiple orbital locations. The satellite is capable of operating all of its channels on a large “CONUS+” downlink beam that serves the United States including Alaska and Hawaii, and the Caribbean (CONUS map national spot beam maps individual spot beam maps - SatelliteGuys****). Certain channels can use 114 transponders on 51 spot beams.

BAMPA · August 26th, 2009

I hope your right but I believe what the dn guy told me and the earsten arch is mpeg4 while the midwestern arch is still mpeg2 yss or no?

**myxlplk009** · August 27th, 2009

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Originally Posted by BAMPA

I was talking to a dn dealer today and he is not installing any more !000.2 dishes only 1000.4 dishes and pointing them at the eastern arch, he told me that dn is going to be phasing out 110, 119, & 129. He said that he can no longer order any equipment for 110, 119, & 129. Has anyone else herd anything like this and what sats are in the eastern arch

first of all, that doesn't make any sense, ciel 2 replaced echo 5 at 129 a few months ago, echo 8 was replaced with echo 11 at 110 less than a year ago and sometime in the next 12 months echo 14 will be replacing echo 7 at 119. these new sats are capable of handling more channels and spot beams and send much stronger signals than the old ones. the eastern arc sats are the older sats moved to new positions. echo 8 was moved to 77, echo 6 is at 72.7 and echo 4 is primarily used for dish net mexico. second the western arc covers nearly 95% of the country while the eastern arc is pretty useless west of the mississippi river, the eastern arc was created to get service to the people who weren't able to get 129 for the majority of hi-def channels. bottom line the dealer who made that statement doesn't know squat about the product he's selling unless he is in the extreme northeast or extreme southeast of the u.s.

BAMPA · August 27th, 2009

I hope you are right, I was just repeting what I was told

**VGiddy** · August 27th, 2009

Here are the facts of the situation.

72.7, 77 and 61.5 are specifically for the Eastern Arc and is spotted by the 1000.4 Dish. As a result all customers in this locality are being re dished to 1000.4.

All other areas will remain as 119, 110 and 129 using the 1000.2 Dish.

Just for information's sake, the 72.7 is presently broadcasting in Mpeg4 and I am sure so will 77. I have a dish tuned to 72.7 and I know that it is a mirror of part 119 and 110 but in Mpeg4 format and I can view the channels since my NF HD can do the Mpeg4.

The Installer that gave you this information was probably instructed bu DN to change dishes in the Eastern area and has misunderstood the situation.

BAMPA · August 27th, 2009

I was going to put up a new dish 1000.2 so you think every thing will be ok?

**VGiddy** · August 27th, 2009

Absolutely. You have my asurances that all will be well.

**just4ufolks** · August 27th, 2009

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Originally Posted by BAMPA

I was going to put up a new dish 1000.2 so you think every thing will be ok?

[QUOTE=VGiddy;747475]Absolutely. You have my asurances that all will be well.[/QUOTE]

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