Subject: School -- 1957 vs. 2007

[lonster]

Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counsellors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.


Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.


Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.

2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.


Scenario: A foreign student fails high school English.

1957 - He goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2007 - His cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and his English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. He is given a diploma anyway.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.


Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

[SoDarkTheCon]

Not even in the 50's...When i was in high school less then 10 years ago...we did not have these problems, i went to a big school in toronto. I think its also the way kids are raised today, and not understanding there are consequences for there actions and the meaning of "NO". Bring back being allowed to hit your kids... Anybody in ontario see that kid that got busted for going 239 km/h in an 80 km/h zone ? jesus....

[lonster]

My son is in daycare and the government licensing board that regulates the daycares has just enforced a policy stating no negative re-enforcements. This means a care provider cannot tell a child NO, this also means a child can deliberately hurt another child and not suffer any form of consequence other than "redirection".

As far as Im concerned, if my child hits another child with a truck for example, my child should have the toy taken away, he should be asked to sit for a couple minutes and then apologize.

What is wrong with teaching consequence, especially when a parent gives the care providers written consent to handle discipline in a non-violent or demeaning way.

It Baffles me

[SoDarkTheCon]

Exactly my point...Its like were all babies now, no longer able to tell from right or wrong, and the government feels the need to do so.

[starviper]

I could say alot on this subject but I want. I will say if they put the fear of God back into Kids and criminals some of this would stop. If there were not lawyers who will sue for a dollar we would be not have kids with more rights than the parents and the criminals would still be hung on main street for raping and killing kids and women.

[rollup]

i agree today kids are treated like they are babies ,some parents just dont give a $hit what ther kids are up to ,i see kids 12 or 13 year old running the streets at all hours of the night ,when i was that age back in the 60s i had better make shure i was home before the street lights came on or there would be hell to pay ,also teatchers have no authority any more kids do not respect them or have any fear of consiquenses for behaving badly ,in th uk where i went to school if you screwed up you were brought up to the front of the class and given the strap ,and when you got home oh boy were you in trouble ,parents need to held responsable for the little trouble makers they raised ,how about if the kid does somthing wrong we through the parents in jail then they might give a **** what ther kids are doing , and yes i did hear about that kid doing 239 kph on the toronto news ,and ther were two or three passengers to ,a disaster waiting to happen ..